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February 23, 2005 at 2:37 pm in reply to: The P-51 Big Beautiful Doll at IWM in London! #1345344

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got that one, too – you’re right…

I am expecially interested in 44-72352 MX-Y Cutie III

it became Swiss AF J-2014

Martin

February 23, 2005 at 2:28 pm in reply to: The P-51 Big Beautiful Doll at IWM in London! #1345347

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Me again

related to this topic a request for help:

does anyone have good quality photographs of the famous line-ups of the 78th FG P-51’s at Duxford in Summer 1945 ? I’ve seen some in old Koku-Fan issues, but would need good quality & high rez scans or prints. The reason is that a few of these aircraft later were sold to the Swiss AF…

TIA !!!

Martin

February 23, 2005 at 2:18 pm in reply to: The P-51 Big Beautiful Doll at IWM in London! #1345394

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Some chronological order

BBD when J.D. landers was still Lt. Col. – note light color on name-plate.

BBD with full scoreboard applied – rank changed and color of nameplate, too

same as above, different angle

Full view with added chequers on wingtips

same aircraft after Landers transferred to the 361st FG (with 44-72218) – new codes E2-I, scoreboard remains….. taken from Peter Randall’s littlefriends site here, where you will find additional details:
http://www.littlefriends.co.uk/gallery-pu.jsp?index=77&Group=361

Martin

February 23, 2005 at 1:23 pm in reply to: The P-51 Big Beautiful Doll at IWM in London! #1345458

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T J – both is (almost) correct – when Landers was Lt. Col., the background color of the name plate on the canopy frame was of a lighter color – either yellow or orange, but when he became a ‘full’ Col. the color changed to red.

Another interesting bit to the original aircraft (44-72218) is the fact, that with all of the photos and hoo-haas about Landers WZ-I “Big Beautiful Doll”, the aircraft flew only 9 combat missions from 25 February to 25 April 1945. Makes one wonder if this was just a photo ops aircraft for the propaganda machine….

Martin

February 23, 2005 at 1:15 pm in reply to: The P-51 Big Beautiful Doll at IWM in London! #1345462

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Jonathan

sure I do have some more material- please drop me your postal address by PM (or e.mail martin[at]swissmustangs.ch )and I will prepare a CD for you.

Martin

February 23, 2005 at 11:31 am in reply to: The P-51 Big Beautiful Doll at IWM in London! #1345573

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ok, before I have some lunch – here’s a small photo of RCAF-9246 while still active…

Martin

February 23, 2005 at 11:24 am in reply to: The P-51 Big Beautiful Doll at IWM in London! #1345578

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and here’s a photo of the Lambeth example while still in Canada…..

it is

RCAF 9246, ex P-51D-25-NA 44-73979 delivered 6 December 1950; served shortly with No. 416 Sqn, wfu 16.5.1951, to A612 (RCAF) Instructional airframe; on exhibit at St. Jean airbase;

Martin

February 23, 2005 at 11:21 am in reply to: The P-51 Big Beautiful Doll at IWM in London! #1345583

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hmm

when was the Lambeth example put on strings ? – I took photographs in Spring 1984 where she is in pieces and being worked at in a Hangar at Duxford, right beside “Candyman / Moose”…

IIRC the FW-190 also was standing on its wheels at Duxford then….

Must fire up my negative scanner tonight….
Martin

February 23, 2005 at 9:19 am in reply to: The P-51 Big Beautiful Doll at IWM in London! #1345906

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and here’s the one now hanging at IWM Lambeth (with wrong serial #)

Martin

February 22, 2005 at 3:23 pm in reply to: Post #1000 – P-51B found by divers #1347340

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Bonjour Chacal et bienvenu ici !

There are many P-51’s that were lost over water and only because of a diver luckily discovered the ‘Radio Call” plate on the instrument panel, reading “2-106-748”, an identification was possible without raising the aircraft itself.
As per my information, the wreck isn’t a very recent discovery, but the ID is.

Laurent (happymeal), est-ce que tu as des informations differents ?

Merci & Salutations
Martin

February 22, 2005 at 1:59 pm in reply to: 2 Tactical Air Force #1347559

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http://home.cogeco.ca/~raf1/RAF-2TAF.jpg

February 22, 2005 at 12:20 pm in reply to: Preserved Harrier pictures #1347675

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GR.3 XZ965 at Beijing…… (and of course the infamous P-61 Black Widow)

http://afwing.jschina.com.cn/gallery/beijing.htm

Martin

February 22, 2005 at 10:54 am in reply to: General Discussion #374460

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half an hour ago near where I live – and it’s been like this for some 4 weeks now. 20 – 30 inches.

greetings
Martin

February 22, 2005 at 9:29 am in reply to: Post #1000 – P-51B found by divers #1347893

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The aircraft is sitting at 55 meters depth near the Island of Porquerolles SE of Toulon. The photographs were taken (copyright) by professional diver & photographer Frédéric Bassemayousse.

Martin

February 21, 2005 at 2:09 pm in reply to: Help needed>> #1350236

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Hi

I am member of the LBB board (in German) where many experts on the Luftwaffe units, deployments and pilots are – further to your request on the WIX and FP boards, I could place a request on your behalf (in German) on the LBB board to find our more re. Uffz. Lang.

Best regards
Martin / Swiss Mustangs
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