Fascinating thread indeed !
Don’t know whether they are of help but here are two photographs to add:
taken by R.N. Wheeler, a pilot with 3 Squadron, RAAF
Regards
Martin / Swiss Mustangs
Did they have any Mk IXs in the Orkneys?
They had Spitfire IXB’s and LF VB “Clipped, Cropped, Clapped” during 1944 – and during an earlier stay up North, they also used Spitfire VI’s
Below is another No. 602 Sqdn ship with full insigna – Pilots are Pierre Clostermann and Ken Charney.
Martin
Okay
LO-D is taken post D-Day – somewhen in July 1944 – the photo of Max Sutherland and the Spit with the full insigna was taken (IIRC) during the unit’s deployment to the Orkneys in January 1944.
Martin
you may find it interesting that the photo with the “C” clearly visible was eventually used as publicity shot
okay – publicity related to Polish units / pilots or RAF in general ?
If it was for RAF general publicity – it would make sense to white out the Polish insigna (or, as a matter of fact, take a photo with low contrast) in order not to give the possibility to link faces to Polish units.
And in hindsight of the above, the other shot would make perfect sense for Polish publicity – it clearly shows a Spit VB of a Polish unit, but no personal or other markings (after the “C” has been made invisible)……
over to you…
Martin
Star Wars – yup, the first one , nowadays called “Episode IV – A new Hope”
Martin
Okay – point taken VoyTech –
the photographer must have used a tripod to do the photographs – I took the two photos ond superimposed them – the exactly same angle and the pilots have barely moved at all – it almost looks like two stills from a movie.
When looking at the shot at left (with the Polish insigna visible), the “C” is ‘not there’ – by enhancing and playing with filters, I received a shape that looks like the “C” has been ‘erased’ on the negative – while on the other shot, with the ‘C’ clearly visible, the Polish national insigna is blanked out; but by adding contrast I can see traces of the colors there, still.
In my opinion, the photos / negatives in question have seen some attention themselves.
Just my 2 cents
Martin
Nils
for the 8th April 1944 there is no Bomber Command loss – also not on several dates earlier or later…….
Must be an USAAF aircraft or the wrong date.
See here for the RAF Bomber Command Diary:
http://www.raf.mod.uk/bombercommand/diary.html
Martin
Pathfinder
re. the 24th March 1944 loss, we have three candidates for No. 429 (RCAF) Sqdn:
check here
http://www.rcaf.com/6group/March44/March24~2544.html
and for more No. 6 Group (RCAF) units – go here:
http://www.rcaf.com/6group/left.html
lots of data to be found…
Martin
Just want to know if these are American units before I pointlessly haul out all my Bomber Command Losses volumes…;)
Flood
Flood
when did the USAAF start their bombing raids ? 27th January 1943……
so you can well pull out your books.
😉 Martin
*LOL*
found this photo, too, today when hunting for evidence material re. the Patty’s A Virgin thread – since I am no Spitfire ‘know it all’ I refrained from posting it in order not to cause widespread yawning…..
Martin
So, what was the colour of the Lion in 602’s badge? Was it blue?
nope – red
Martin
For the 31st FG Spit, I’d say number 1; for the No. 602 Sqn Spitfire(s) it’s number 2 in my books.
Cheers
Martin
And here she was…….
From:
http://www.warbirdaeropress.com/PhGal/nfpicturepro/
Martin / Swiss Mustangs 😎
I also have some “To Do’s” for 2005, which are above all other regular activities
– Finishing & Publication of my book-project on the Swiss Air Force P-51 incl. their former history with the USAAF
– Attending Duxford Legends in July and probably meeting some of you girls & lads
Martin / Swiss Mustangs