See John just saying it isnt enough. If there are holes…point them out. Your form is to go quiet when asked a direct question or try some pithy and funny retort….which is a little transparent. I made 4 specific points with one listed as a ‘likely’ but based on the comments of what the leader of the Leave campaign is published as doing.

Farage has reneged on the promise that I pictured earlier behind Boris…that is simple fact and you cant wriggle out of it. The SNP has started the legislative process to field a second referendum in Scotland as a direct result of Brexit…again Sturgeon’s statements are clear and undeniable.

I take Bruce’s point that, thanks to Carney, an economic recovery of sorts has swung in…but there’s no evading the point that we’re still down on where we were prior to the result. If we do have to fall-back on Carneys resources thats money we’ll need to cover. So you cannot honestly say that there has been no economic upheaval as a result of the vote. We’ve still got all the shocks to come from a Scottish secession and as a result of any negative developments during the exit negotiations. None of those will be positive for us.

Is there an ‘IF’ on the negotiations for EEA yes….but there is also precedent. Which is a lot more than you are basing your views on isnt it John.

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Used you like a handful of Kleenex and you’re still proud of it! :highly_amused:

.Small comfort to the hundreds of innocent families in this country deeply affected by matters over which they had no control but, who eventually triumphed by their collective dismissal of our membership of the dictatorial and grossly undemocratic EU.

…and no comfort whatsoever to the thousands of families who will be facing financial hardship as the price of peace of mind for the few hundred you mention. Sure its worth it though.

No mention of the irony that the Bank of England, with Mark Carney at its head…stupidly villified as a government stooge through the campaign, has stepped in to shore up the economy against the worst effects of the out vote?.

Wonder what finding that £250bn will cost us down the track….ironic that repairing the damage from the Leave vote will cost us an amount about equal to 25yrs of our net EU contributions!?. Still we can stop the thousands of Lithuanian rapists storming ashore to rape and pillage now. So thats all worth it…right John?.

Oh and the ECJ doesnt have primacy on national law….only EU law.

Alan,

Herr Junker is showing his true colours. Trying to bully the UK into leaving the EU without delay.

17 million people have just chosen to tell europe to fk off fully aware that it will wreck their own economy in the process. Are you surprised they want rid of us?. We’re a laughing stock now internationally Alan isnt this obvious?

C’mon Bruce you can do better than that. Transient currency ‘highs’ and ‘lows’ do not impinge upon a countries financial ranking!

Losing our AAA status is a bit of a dent though. Has the low transitioned back into a high on the currency market yet John….if it doesnt its called something else you know?

If the failed and broken EU pipedream goes Tango Uniform, which is looking increasingly likely, there will be no EU, and therefore no Schengen.

So, to make this disaster manageable, all that has to happen is that the other 27 nations in the EU have to disintegrate. That is honestly your position Paul?.

As seen through a crystal ball, made by the ‘Experts’, or was it from the ‘Smart’ people!

Paul,

What crystal ball is required?. Now the news is saying that £100bn has been wiped off the value of the FTSE 100 companies and Farage has already reneged on one of the main promises Leave made to re-invest money ‘saved’ from Europe.

Enjoy your Brexit!

Quite.

Got to share this……

http://newsthump.com/2016/06/23/massive-eu-referendum-conspiracy-foiled-after-voter-uses-a-pen/

‘this is Harold Wilson all over again’ I’m actually crying laughing typing this…..

Bend over and brace yourself then John 🙂
I agree that we are stuffed no matter which way the vote goes BTW

Happy that theres finally a point that we can reach agreement on!. I’d rather be well off and screwed than poor and screwed though!. Some sense of comfort to cling on to!

I think your problem is you’re confusing EU ‘trading rules’ with EU imposed laws – i.e. laws that are made directly by the EU

There is no difference in end result Paul –

‘Join Schengen or forget trading with the EU’

Is that a trading rule or an EU imposed law?. Does it matter for a split second what its called when the net effect is a country, outside of the EU, having to take on the burden of Free movement if it wants to trade?.