“One only has to walk around in central London. I’m like the white spot on a domino.”
Oh dear.
“One only has to walk around in central London. I’m like the white spot on a domino.”
Oh dear.
could not agree with the last post more. What I find more disturbing is not Clarkson himself as idiots are spead pretty evenly throughout society. But the way the BBC (an organsation that I assist in funding) seeks to justify the homophobia that exists whin the programme.
‘We acknowledge some viewers do not appreciate the Top Gearteam’s sense of humour but their provocative comments are an integral part of the programme and are not intended to be taken seriously.’
They clearly would not say the same thing about racist comments and Carol Thatcher was shown the door very quickly. I sincerely hope that history will judge Top Gear in the same way that it has judged the Black and White Minstral Show.
I have to say that to me Bernard Chabbert is as much Legends as MH434. I would be disappointed if he wasn’t there, as his commentary is so over the top that it is highly entertaining. Having said that, I found a great spot on the tank bank between speakers where the commentary was not intrusive. I may also have been one of the ones to cheer when the speakers cut out.
Still, I hope he is back next year.
Andy
I don’t think anyone is suggesting that he not attend, he has a wealth of experience and knowledge. He should just learn the value of silence at the appropriate time. It’s similar to being a sports commentator. Saying nothing at the right time and letting the scene tell it’s own tale is a skill that all the best commentators have.
I normally like the addition of Bernard Chabbert to the team but this year he was way over the top, he just went on and on and onand……. With no other member of the team willing to tell him to stop and let the Merlins do the talking. At one point, I reached for the pen knife in my pocket and was very tempted to cut the cable on the tannoy (what voltage do they have?)
eveyone should feel free to give feedback to the TFC team and hopefully, they can be more reserved next year,
otherwise, a great show:)
sorry, one other point on the tannoy, all they did for the whole morning was use the tannoy as an advertising tool (join this, buy that, go and donate to this, join this again, go and buy that again), just becomes very annoying
just reading that name brings back many happy memories of past airshows: he and his wonderful Corsair were stars of many an airshow I attended. Sorry to hear that he is unwell, he and all the airshow pilots of that era were and still are real heros to me.
I think the issue may be that many spotters etc are so anal that they expect the name of the airshow to 100% accurately reflect the content. But if you want to market and promote a successful airshow called ” Piston Engine powered Warbirds and trainers build before 1950 (ish) with some guests at our discretion including replicas 2009″ be my guest
Mr Grey and his team bust there gut every year to bring us one of the finest airshows in the World, please, give the guy a break!
Jupiter for all I care, it flies and thats what counts, 🙂
surprised nobody has come on to complain about the wrong engine being fitted, and I hope it’s got the right tail wheel.;)
“I find this deceit criminal.”
Dial 999 and ask to be put through to the Fraud Squad
“If I buy a specific serial and I research it’s history, I would be very disappointed to find out I bought something it isn’t.”
Yes, what a bummer. I would love to have problems like that. “Oh no, I have gone and bought another flyable Sea Fury and there is an issue with the serial number. I want my money back”
It’s very kind of you to be so considerate to those who, in future, may pay hundreds of thousands of pounds for a warbird and find that it has some components that don’t match the original serial. But I think they are big boys (and girls) and can do the research for themselves. (before writing out the cheque)
Yak11 is spot on, lets all relax and enjoy the show. We don’t know how lucky we are
Re the Legends crowd, I think it’s easy to over estimate how important the enthusasts market is in terms of percentage. For example, we often moan about the quality of the commentary and forget that it’s not actually aimed at us, it’s aimed at Jo Public, they out number us and they bring in the real bucks. Many, if not all of us, will have overheard some real gaffs from people standing next to us that clearly show that their basic warbird knowledge is lacking. But I would like to hear from anyone who thinks that an airshow could survive purely on the enthusasists market.
On your second point, I totally agree that history is important and discussions on forums like this are testament to that (I never claimed that issues like this should not be discussed, just not worried about). But if I want to inspire my son (or anyone elses child for that matter) to learn more about 20th Century history, what will do the job best. A static rebuild, accurate to the finest degree or a flying warbird with some details lost and, heaven forbid, even the wrong serial on the side. There is more to history that counting rivets . It’s about keeping history alive and remembering people: not chunks of metal. Shows like Legends and men like Mr Grey play their part. And I will always be thankful (and not critical) for their efforts
Why will nothing fly if we become ‘fussy’ about historical accuracy ? The likes of Peter Vacher and Teichman don’t seem to have any problem with turning out aircraft that are both perfectly airworthy Hurricanes and accurate in the detail. If nobody cares about historic detail why do people go to Flying Legends when any other air display would do? The fact that the aircraft has a Centaurus is great – the tailwheel issue would worry me as there is obviously the rear fuse of WG655 about somewhere!
There are many things in life that maybe worth worrying about but, for me, the authenticity of a tail wheel on a fifty year old aircraft is not on my list. There are many aircraft that have flown at Legends that are not 100% authentic, but, for me, that has zero effect on my enjoyment and I really think that most of the crowd share my view. And yes, there have been some wonderfully accurate restorations. But to imply that Mr Grey somehow has not met those standards benchmarked by others sounds a little churlish to me if you don’t mind me saying. Worry more about the weather, chill out and relax to the wonderful sound of a Centuraus closely followed by a tale wheel of some description.
PS I don’t really think that people attend Legends for the historic detail of the aircraft. Most of the crowd could not tell a Mark 1 Spit from a Mark 19, but they still have a great time 🙂
Whilst appreciating the eye for historic detail, how many airshow visitors (both enthusiasts and gen public) will give two jots about the status of it’s tailwheel? If we become too fussy in future about historical accuracy, nothing will fly. It’s enevitable that some compromises must be made in order to keep these things airworthy. It has a centuraus after all!. I wonder if Mr Grey ever reads these posts and what he thinks when people remark on the authenticity of the tail wheel? It will look and sound fantastic and thats enough for me. Well done Mr Grey, surely overdue for a knighthood? Perhaps we should start a campaign?
Don’t say anything bad about Ms Gibson, she helped me through my teenage years!