Strange claim for a FBW aircraft, when the feeling is artificial at all. In the same way you can demand a big yoke for the F-16 f.e. to achive what by that?

F-16? We are talking A400M and An-70
We are talking about tactical airlift, and assault landings. FBW or not, The aircraft will be flirting on the edge of a stall in these conditions, you need to have feel into the input device that will let you make either large inputs or very fine, precise inputs in a fraction of a second. A side-stick just lacks that feel.

If you want to bring up FBW airlines and try to compare them to a tactical airlifter (don’t, they aren’t the same) and say that the side stick has worked great for years…well OK, but then again, you are not bringing an A-320 into a 2800 ft dirt strip…where if you over correct or under correct, you and your pallet of beans are dead.

Believe me, I think that Antonov knows tactical airlift a tad better then Airbus does… They must have put a yoke in for a reason, no? The C-130J didn’t go to a side stick…Lockheed might of had a reason? The C-17 still uses a center stick with a long pivot point…

Or, does Airbus actually know what you need in a tactical airlifter better then the companies who have perfected it for well over 50 years now.

Honestly, any way you slice it…price, range, Tactical performance, the An-70 is an all around better aircraft.

What I do not like about the A400M is the fact that you have a side stick instead of a big yoke… unless you have done tactical landings, you will not understand how helpful that is in an aircraft. The joysticks will not give you that feel, the huge push pull you need on a steep approach where you need to make the slightest corrections quickly and accurately.

Antonov know tactical aircraft…better than anyone (yes)
They put in an old fashioned yoke for a reason, not because they were less advanced…

Scooters point is valid and makes sense,compare all branches of the U.S military of today to the military of the 50s,60s,70s and well into the 80s when there were so many different aircraft,it must have been a nightmare with such a wide variety of aircraft.
The U.S airforce of the 70s had F100s,F105s,A-7s,F-4s,F104s,F106s,F-15s,F-16s,F111s,A-10s and the list goes on,keeping such a large variety of aircraft flight worthy must have a logistics nightmare and must have been bloody expensive,today the fighter element centres around 4 types with 1 type the Stealth Fighter on its way out and 2 new types entering service or in development.
The lest variety of aircraft be it fighter,transport or chopper is good for the taxpayer and for the man ordering the spare parts but it has to be balanced with the right aircraft doing the right job

… in the end he should be upset with the Army then. They had AH-1s and then upgraded to the no better AH-64 just to get something newer. The AH-64 is not a bad aircraft….but it is not a great aircraft either and IMHO not worth the extra money spent on development and then after they were on line all the extra money to get the damn thing to work (Remember, in 1991 the Army needed an Air Force helicopter to show them the way in battle….sort of a slap in the face huh for such an expensive and “modern” helicopter).

The AH-1 is one of the best attack helicopters ever built and it is only getting better…and remember, the AH-1Z is not a new aircraft, it is a retrofit just like the AH-1W was…

so yes, your point is valid but flawed… it is cheaper for everyone to use the same stuff…but when something works like a champ, why throw it out and spend millions more per copy to just duplicate performance with reduced reliability? Newer isn’t always better!

That point has some merit……..Yet, the Apache was developed so it’s really moot!:(

Not everyone believes that the AH-64 is that much better than the AH-1 ( plus, price differience?)

This is a reputed picture of the Hercules after it was destroyed, taken from this website, however I would dispute this claim, as it appears to be an early version, four balded prop.

I reckon this is a photograph of the failed Iranian US Embassy rescue attempt on 25 April 1980, when a C130 collided with a CH53 on takeoff killing 8 servicemen.

That was EC-130E 62-1809

Mine would be the Avro CF-105 Arrow…

Just to prove to all Canadians that it was not the greatest fighter jet ever built 😉

the TSR.2 would be for me 🙂

explain plz,what the kind of training?for which aircrafts,helicopters or maintenance etc?

Flight Engineer, C-130E