Nice one Alex, they look fabulous, as does the whole cockpit!
Martyn
GYD
Looks pretty good to me Alex!
Martyn
GYD
flatter99,
Cracking Job there, well done!
GYD
Nice one Alex,
looking forward to seeing the finished article : )
GYD
Hmmm….. I’m pretty sure F-15’s are plastic too. The only metal ones that I have encountered in this style are modified F-3 and GR 4 Tornado’s but, they have a totally different attachment to the column!
??? It’s pretty unique!
GYD
Hi ProudKerman,
It looks a bit different to the Hornet grips I have seen and come across. Although it could very well be an earlier version perhaps ???
As far as I am aware though, both the F-18 grip and the AV8 Harrier II grips are made of a plastic material and not metal, (the two only differ in the position of the ‘coolie hat’ trim switch position). Swifter, do you have any input?
GYD
Cheers Alan,
I too had that link from my other sources but, I think it needs a physical trip to Kew then!
My next line of investigation lies with the two aircrew who successfully abandoned RF966, it might be interesting to know how their individual careers moved on?
GYD
Hi welkin,
Apologies for the late reply!
I will try and find a copy of that book then, cheers for the ‘heads up’.
When 966 crashed in 1952, 204 AFS had done away with the ‘FMO’ codes (July 1951) and just had a single individual code letter. I have been in contact with a few other erudite individuals and now have quite a list of over 60 identified aircraft and in some instances, their fates.
From this list it seems that it could be one of 4 options, U, W, Y or, Z. (The unit’s T3’s were coded A-P and the FBVI’s coded Q-Z).
I am ruling out Y (previous A/C TE657, on unit June 1950 & crashed 12/1951) or, Z (previous A/C RS677, on unit June 1950 crashed 11/1951).
RF966 was allocated to 204 in July 1951, from my list, only two aircraft were allocated or, more precisely identified as U or, W (U – RS595, PZ307 both arrived 1949 and W – LR308 in 1948 and HR242 in 1947, the latter crashing in 1949).
My inner gut feeling is thinking ‘U’ but, knowing my luck, its ‘W’
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.
Martyn
GYD
Hi Phil,
My knowledge of such foreign made grips is not extensive by any stretch but, it is indeed a ‘generic’ SAMM 103/103A French designed handle and fitted to the vast majority of French aircraft of the 60’s, 70’s and early 80’s period, much in the same way the US B8/MC2 was fitted to nearly all US aircraft!
The fact that it has the Hebrew markings on the label makes it quite unique (I know Ian H has one) and certainly narrows down it’s origin!
Sadly, because of it’s common use, identifying the actual aircraft type is very hard to establish. A nice item none the less, well done.
Martyn
GYD
Hi Alex,
Thanks for the translation Your latest creations look as good as ever! Next to the original, you can see the slight differences but, I expect when viewed alone no one would know! Cracking job Alex, well done.
Martyn
GYD
Cracking job Alex!
It looks very similar to my (ex-DDR) MiG 21 Bis column, the only difference being the position of the covered switch marked ‘PCCCF’ and the other push button have changed positions!
What does the PCCCF stand for?
Martyn
GYD
Nice one Alex! Looks just like the real thing!
GYD
Hi bananasplits,
Graham Adlam of Spitfire spares has one on his site at the moment but, he’s asking about twice as much as they are worth however, the age old question is, anything is only worth as much as anyone is prepared to pay for it! http://spitfirespares.co.uk/controls.html (just scroll down till you find it).
One or two have appeared on e-bay but, because these were also fitted to late mark Spitfires, along with Vampire 3/5/9, Meteor 4, Venom 1 (pre bang seat), Sea Fury, Spiteful, Balliol plus a few others), everyone assumes it must be off a Spitfire and worth a lot more!
It has also been noted by the great ‘Air Ministry’ formally of this parish, that confusion arises between the AH 8400 and AH 8200 part numbers in the AP 1086 listings. The ring mk 2 handle is actually AH 8400 and thus marked/stamped and the firing button is actually AH 8200 as explained in his very worthwhile tome, ‘An illustrated guide to British Aircraft Equipment 1939 – 1945, vol 4 – Dunlop Spade grips and gun firing gear’ a ‘must’ for any avid handle collector!
Martyn
GYD
Hi Alex,
If I saw it in ‘the flesh’ it would certainly fool me as a replica!
Nice one!
GYD
Thanks Toni,
Much appreciated, thanks you.
GYD