Hi Phil,
I put a post on your other thread ‘American stick grips’
GYD
Hi Phil,
Good to hear from you again!
As mentioned above, as far as I am aware, the Skyraider was originally fitted with the shorter NAF1173- ‘3’ style grip and then it was replaced with a more ergonomic modern ‘Mason’ made grip during it’s later use. Problems arrise when people get hold of these items with no clue and rely on the previous vendor’s sales pitch for provenance!
My thoughts would be, that it would have probably been fitted/used on a rotary wing or, primary training aircraft, as the trigger is often used for the radio/comms switch with no need for additional stores/function buttons. I have no idea what the ‘BAC’ serial relates to but, it is interesting to note that it is an ‘official’ stamp rather than a field etched number. I have attached a picture of my A-1 column and ‘Mason’ grip fitted to it. (A similar grip was also fitted to th F-4D Skyray)
Still, unique, good catch!
Martyn
GYD

Cheers for that flatter99, interesting story!
GYD
Nice one flatter99, good to see you back!
Any history with your latest post?
GYD
Hi all,
Look like T7 Meteor from memory?
GYD
Hi AM,
Nice to see you back!
On looking at the small picture of the wheel, I instantly thought of Walrus/Sea Otter; as it bears an uncanny resemblance (from memory) of the ‘cut away’ Walrus in the museum at Yeovilton. Then I opened each picture in full to see the brochure picture mention sea planes, spooky!
GYD
Hi Brightspark180,
Nice to hear from you again and a lovely addition to the collection.
I have seen this one before, was it not on an auction site (not e-vilBay), not long ago? The last time it came about no one could identify a specific type use. It’s an odd one. It doesn’t have a brake lever mount, so foot brakes fitted? Old wartime style crinkly pre vulcanite non-slip handle coating, doesn’t point to anything I have seen. The number is higher numerically than the ‘standard’ AH8400 fitted to the early jets so, possibly later? The only other thing we could think of was perhaps, an experimental type?
We wondered if the great Air Ministry of this parish my be of help – if he still lurks these murky forgotten pages?
Yours Aye,
GYD
Hi Nicko, the seat in your picture looks like a mk4, the Mk4P is fitted to the Jet Provost which would match the fact it has ‘port seat’ labelled on the head box. However, looking at my copy of AP129 the following aircraft were fitted with the Mk. 2 seat:
Wyvern Mk. 2B
Sea Hawk Mk. 2D
Meteor Mk. 2E
Venom Mk. 2F
Swift Mk. 2G
Hunter Mk. 2H
Javelin (aircraft mks 1-6) Mk. 2J.
The Swift, Hunter and Javelins were also later fitted with variations of the Mk. 3 seat too.
Regards,
Martyn
GYD
I would like to thank all at NAM for all the hospitality and inclusion for the 50th celebrations held last weekend. The weather held out and allowed another weekend of aviation indulgance, great conversation, great company and meeting up with old friends. However, I didn’t get a burger off Johnny Vegas!
Looking forward to ‘Cockpitfest’ in June.
GYD
Nae worries : )
GYD
Hi TT2,
I sent you a PM with a picture of XD599 a couple of weeks ago, did you receive it?
GYD
Thanks to all, that certainly ‘clears’ that one up!
GYD
Hi FB.
Nice one, nice condition too!
GYD
Hi MJ627,
Looking at the F731’s I have for these two handles the AC66826 fitted to ZA596 has the two upper most buttons fitted and the mid handle switch blanked off. It was removed for modifications 1795 and 883 to be embodied in April 1998.
The ACA1638 from ZD746 has the upper button blanked off and the mid handle switch in place. This was removed in July 2002 but it is issued with a ‘Serviceable’ F731 with no reason for removal, perhaps during a ‘spares recovery’ pending modification to GR4?
I also had an AC1640 handle from ZA357 GR1(T), which had the top and mid handle buttons blanked off so, I presumed that this would be the ‘rear’ instructors column handle but, I sold it and a column at Newark last year!
Hope that helps??
GYD
Hi Phil,
That is one I don’t have!
Strangely, my Lightning list only goes up to AC 65984 too, (which is only fitted to the T5) and has no listing of any of the export versions; which is strange, as my Hunter list does???
However, I do have a Lightning column and grip that has been re-numbered AC 66302, (which was originally an AC 64608, modified and old number erased, then the new number etched on but, still faintly readable). This was fitted singly across the whole range of marques!
Without a relevant copy of the Lightning AP4545 (modifications AP) to properly x-ref, I would suggest that it was probably used on all of the later T5/T55 aircraft, the T4’s being long gone I would have thought by the time it was issued into service?
As ever, any additional input from the more erudite members of this medium, always welcomed to clear any fog/duff gen!
Martyn
GYD