Oh, come on! That was not aggressive! I didn’t say anything about drugs! I only talked about coffee, is that really so bad? OK then, I retract and rephrase: Your… tea was not too good this morning was it? :diablo:

Have you tried ‘Kerela Gold’ (India)- it’s the best coffee I ever tasted in my life!!

(It’s the PAK-FA of all coffees).

Article 117 pumps in the flight hours, Zhukovskii (yesterday):

Planeman,

I don’t know how you manage all those impressions, but I am impressed! Super effort. Would think the IFT probe would be retractable though.

Otaku,

Thanks for Pibu’s link. Hope some of the French boys here translate the nitty gritties, otherwise I’d have to google translate 😡

USS.

Planeman, with ~80% of that MLG structure (including the wheel) retracting into the inlet wall cavity- I think your ‘S-duct’ rendition is pretty damn close!! Nice one!!

USS, you can googletranslate the russian trans of that text- it’s legible. If not, I’ll post-up the main points later.

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Being a silent reader on this forum, I’d like to thank all the productively contributing members here on this thread for the best PAK FA forum in English, anywhere. With special thanks and deepest gratitude to:

1. paralay
2. QuadroFX
3. Otaku
4. planeman_

Hats off to you folks!

Спасибо!! On behalf of all of us- You’re most welcome!!

+1, guys – thanks for all the information and illustrations.

It’s probably not the place to say it, but no one publishing source could compete with the detail and speed at which you got things up on the site 🙂

Thanks again guys for the great updates.

As PiBu said in his article, history was made- and for the first time ever, we followed this event in real-time!

After waiting for years, Sukhoi didn’t disappoint and now we’ll look forward to observing the T-50’s test programme, scrutinising every detail…

Watch this space folks…

Paralay, I think much of your work is great, but I do think your PAK-FA schematics need some revision (please don’t be offended- but given the nature of the heated debate over the inlets here and elsewhere, we need to clarify some observations).

The 1st pic below left shows:

(a) The long red line denotes the the upper right extension of the intake, taking the LEVCON root as a reference point.
(b) The short red line denotes the line-of-sight of the compressor/engine- clearly they are not aligned.
(c) The lower-right lip of the intake may be in line with some of the compressor BUT probably not, as the engine is vertically on a higher plane than with the intake lip (which droops down).

The 2nd pic below right shows:

(a) The MLG wheel retracts and lies vertically in that sizeable well, if you watch the 1st flight video, when the MLG retracts, the wheel does not rotate to lie horizontally like the FLANKER/FULCRUM. Hence, the red line denotes the MLG diameter and the approximate protrusion into the intake wall.
(b) Your renderings do not effectively show that ‘shoulder’ (red ‘parallelogram’) and the evident height of the engine ‘hump(s), which converge.

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Given these observations, one has to ask what %age of the compressor face will be visible, line-of sight.
Imho, worst case <10%, best case none at all.

I appreciate how difficult these observations are to render.

No eurocanards does show any kind of faceting , at least the 50 show it, the F35 faceting is pretty lacking as well, and for sure the planar-flying wing does help for it RCS thingy for it topology and gradient orientation

The plane looks pretty on the level of the final F-23 (not the rear part), hey, some people would cry over the 23’s intake cones..that are not stealthy, and actually is a inferior plane because of that..

The F-22 is just a conventional airframe with a long edge passing all through it airframe, as the T50, at least this last will show and test some new things in the aerodynamic field

We would go on the planar alignment and a lot of more trash over this stealth issue, but i will end sounding like a child…

We need to see some nice HR shots of this plane with its ‘wheels-up’, ’cause from its front & side elevations, it’ll be ‘flat as a pancake’ or ‘Плоская лягушка’ (squashed frog), which will probably more than make up for the lift body underside deficiencies.

The Su-35BM will compete with the Eurocanards & SH on the international market on capability, and definitely on price.
The RuAF/MoD’s decision to acquire so few Su-35s merely highlights their hopes, aspirations & confidence in the T-50 programme.

On top of that, the PAK-FA at 100 million an airframe — a number we got from Sukhoi — is almost certainly going to be more expensive than any future Eurofighter tranche and for that matter it already looks like it will be FAR AND AWAY more expensive per unit than the JSF.

Aside from being a national big-willy project, the T-50 is an investment- technological, engineering & economic. For when this baby is deployed in significant numbers in a decade’s time- the World’s strategic & economic balance will be markedly different to what it is today.

Interesting

These guys know what they’re doing 😉

Yeah, i see it clearly. There has to be an horisontly S-shape or a curve and to some degree in verticaly too.
Plus the narrowing intake where the MLG sticks in the front intake.

You see the 2 small, yellow diagonally placed squares at the base of those elongated yellow panels? -they’re the access hatches for the compressor face- they’re the same as on the Su-35S.

“Horrendous export failures?” France/Rafale possibly but I’m not too sure I’d go that far to calling it a horrendous export failure, still early days yet, give it time. As for the other two Eurocanards? Hardly.

Pending official confirmation, Libya has just ordered Su-35S. However, with a small number (~15), they may go for a Rafale mix- I wonder what the price difference is 😀

Thanks for the vid UAZ.

Here’s a news feature. A materials specialist says composite usage will approach 40%, watch for AESA (including conformal) chamber tests:

http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=340353&cid=7

This gives you a good representation of what is going on:
http://i46.tinypic.com/2mrfj4n.jpg

Pssst…Guys just say he’s right and maybe he’ll go away (forever).

OH MY GOD!!!!! HOW THE HELL DID THAT GUY GET HOLD OF PAK-FA’S BLUE-PRINTS……HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SOOOOO WRONG!!!!!!DAMN YOU TO HELL HIGH-RES DIGITAL SLR…….HOW THE GODS MOCK ME!!!!!!

Спасибо, глаз радуется!! You’re da man Quadro!!

OMG!!! Kapedani, look how deep that MLG wheel bay is!!!!!!!

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If a 40 min. first flight fullfil your dreams, you are an easy man to please. If I were you, I’ll aim for a full operational 5th gen. fighter.

Do you mean the F-35 :confused:

What does then?

Endless tail-chasing.