OtakuMy point is that they caught up to 70s and 80s technology. They haven’t caught up to the APG-63(v) 2,3,4, APG-77, APG-79, and APG-81 though, much less the improved version of those sets that will exist in 5, 10, 15yrs from now.
That is an utterly facile argument- a favourite of that degenerate from ‘Planet Stupid’– you surprise me wrightwing. Comparing the virtually non-existant computing industry products of the USSR with that of the post-industrial revolution of the West in the 1980s is meaningless today.
Objective RMAF radar engineers’ analysis of Bars rated it higher than AN/APG-79 in ’03, hence Irbis capabilities can only assumed to be significantly better.
You are aware that the processors at the heart of Irbis & the active array derivative for PAK-FA are likely to be Intel or Toshiba? (not the obsolete ones in the F-22).
You are aware that the design/modelling/test software for PAK-FA (Russia’s 2nd ‘digital aircraft’) includes that by Siemens PLM (as used on SSJ100)? and NPO Saturn (engine) by Ansys (US)?
So tell me, what’s to stop PAK-FA entering service in the latter-half of next decade with an Irbis-based, GaN active array (COTS Toshiba-available today) AESA, with source-code written by Infosys (India)?
OtakuMy point is that they caught up to 70s and 80s technology. They haven’t caught up to the APG-63(v) 2,3,4, APG-77, APG-79, and APG-81 though, much less the improved version of those sets that will exist in 5, 10, 15yrs from now.
That is an utterly facile argument- a favourite of that degenerate from ‘Planet Stupid’– you surprise me wrightwing. Comparing the virtually non-existant computing industry products of the USSR with that of the post-industrial revolution of the West in the 1980s is meaningless today.
Objective RMAF radar engineers’ analysis of Bars rated it higher than AN/APG-79 in ’03, hence Irbis capabilities can only assumed to be significantly better.
You are aware that the processors at the heart of Irbis & the active array derivative for PAK-FA are likely to be Intel or Toshiba? (not the obsolete ones in the F-22).
You are aware that the design/modelling/test software for PAK-FA (Russia’s 2nd ‘digital aircraft’) includes that by Siemens PLM (as used on SSJ100)? and NPO Saturn (engine) by Ansys (US)?
So tell me, what’s to stop PAK-FA entering service in the latter-half of next decade with an Irbis-based, GaN active array (COTS Toshiba-available today) AESA, with source-code written by Infosys (India)?
Otakuhttp://pilot.strizhi.info/2008/12/27/6101
More helo stuff: Ka-52, Ansat, Mi-28N and Ka-252.
Ditto!! Ka-52 has a pretty funky cockpit!!
OtakuI wonder if “the World’s largest democracy” will be offering a simplified sneak-peak of it’s twin-seater, imminently- or risk the wrath of the ‘closed-society bashers’/JS Mill/’End of History’ midgets here on KeyPubFor.
Those naughty Sukhoi heads defying scooter’s tedious PR freedom trumpeting dribble…..but wait!! as the Russian state is the major stakeholder- there’s no need. Good PR on Wall St. is a must- ask Madoff!!
MiG’s 1.42 was kept under wraps for nearly 8 years (the 2nd prototype was never shown), S-37 ~6 (only to show-off what Sukhoi could do for next to no funding- in order to successfully usurp MiG in the 5G tender.
I’m confident with the PAK-FA we’re headed for a repeat of when the Su-27 first broke-cover off Norway many years ago (i.e. Gobsmacked surprise/ admiration). I think the Russophobes fear this too- hence the increasingly rabid rants.
Oh, and guys, stop feeding [the latest incarnation of] that degenerate from ‘Planet Stupid’.
Otaku‘The Times of India’ reports general contract signed for PAK-FA-MKI:
HAL, Russia’s UAC ink pact on 5th generation fighter aircraft
23 Dec 2008, 1830 hrs IST, PTIBANGALORE: Hindustan Aeronautics Limited and Russia’s United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) inked a pact to jointly develop and produce a fifth
generation fighter aircraft, a top HAL official said on Tuesday.“We (HAL and UAC) are moving forward as per schedule. We (have) just done the general contract yesterday. I went to Delhi and signed the general contract,” HAL Chairman Ashok K Baweja said.
HAL officials noted that under a preliminary inter-governmental agreement signed in October last year, the advanced multi-role fighter is being developed by Sukhoi, part of UAC, along with the Bangalore-headquartered defence PSU.
According to reports, Russia and India would simultaneously develop two versions of the aircraft — a two-seat version to meet the requirements of India and a single seat version for Russian Air Force.
UAC had begun building a prototype of the jet fighter which would feature high manoeuvrability and stealth to ensure air superiority and precision in destroying ground and sea targets, reports said.
Asked about the proposed investment in the venture, Baweja said it was very difficult to say at this stage and added: “It will be quite a lot”.
He told reporters on the sidelines of the celebrations of HAL Day that the Navratna company has put on the backburner its MRO (maintenance, repair and overhaul of civil aircraft) venture plans at HAL airport following a slowdown in the world civil aviation market.
OtakuMiG-29K flight simulator:
OtakuLooks like acres of deck space:
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OtakuInteresting. Certainly it would explain the lack of a dedicated radar intercept officer, as I understand it the primary role of the co-pilot on a Su-30MKI.
The IAF want a true multi-role strike-fighter with long endurance CAP (Indian Ocean, Indo-pak/chinese border), looking to the future scenarios of EW, NCW etc.etc. the IAF feels that 2 crew would be better suited (to the workload).
Obviously the RuAF may select the 2 seater for dedicated roles in the future- kinda like an FB-22.
High-Res. pics of Su-35 ‘902’:
http://www.sukhoi.org/gallery/?gallery_110&cur_gallery_id=138
OtakuThen tell me what the reality is. How many real BVR kills has been achived and against what kind of targets?
Many 10s against many drones. In combat, I can only think of 1: Iraqi MiG-25 downs USN F-18C…or did an AIM-120 down a Yugoslav MiG-29 also?
Otaku…but I am far from convinced that they have the industrial base to do it in series production for airframes largely based on composites.
Er…YG KnAAPO has spent the last 3 years tooling-up, importing specialist heavy fab machinery from Europe & Japan, of particular note is the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Composite fabs- the same ones used for the ‘Dreamliner’.
As for AESAs, GaN HEMTS are available COTS (Toshiba), and last month a senior Phazotron official stated that it was the cost that was prohibitive and not the technical assembly/know-how.
If the Russians can license produce ‘Damocles’ & ‘Catherine’, negotiate to buy Israeli UAVs, I very much doubt importing commercially available Toshiba GaN HEMTS will pose any problems at all come next decade.
The only lag for PAK-FA I deduce will be MMI (as Thales will probably help out with HMDs, TopOwl-F or some derivative).
OtakuI, too, moticed that the latest computer graphics start to increasingly resemble each other.. Wonder whether that means something.
The artist’s impression builds on NPO Saturn’s (hastily withdrawn) simplified rendition.
Taking into account engine-spacing, ducted S-intakes it is more analogous to the YF-23. Also, the implication is 2 main w/bays (like those currently being flight-tested on the S-37), arranged in tandem and not abreast- like the F-22.
The small, all-moving vertical stabilisers (& airbrakes) emulate NPO Saturn’s rendition- their laughable video at the Zhuhai airshow was a feable attempt at Maskirovka.
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There is a detailed article (Tikhomirov-NIIP director interviewed by Andrei Fomin) on PAK-FA’s AESA in this month’s ‘Take Off’ magazine.
If any of our Rooskii rebyata could enlighten us with the details that would be nice :).
OtakuReuters “clubs F-22 like baby seals”:
U.S. fighter plane needs major upgrades-arms buyer
WASHINGTON, Nov 20 (Reuters) – The U.S. Air Force fleet of F-22 Raptors, designed to be the world’s top fighter jet, needs more than $8 billion dollars of upgrades to be made “capable and affordable to operate,” the Pentagon’s top arms buyer said on Thursday.
The comments by John Young, the undersecretary of defense for acquisition, highlighted Pentagon opposition to buying more than the 183 F-22s on order from Lockheed Martin Corp (LMT.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), the prime contractor.
The Air Force long has argued it needs 381 F-22s to be able to dominate the skies at the start of any major war and clear the way for other U.S. and allied warplanes.
Young said the Air Force already had budgeted about $8.3 billion for software upgrades and unspecified modifications to about 100 of the F-22s that would otherwise “kind of be lesser models.”
Those outlays should be taken into account before talking about buying more jets, he told reporters at a breakfast.
“I don’t think the debate is informed by all those facts,” he added.
In addition, the F-22’s “mission capable rate,” a measure of its readiness, fell in the 62 percent range in the 2008 fiscal year, Young said.
“I think that’s troubling,” he went on, adding the fighter, which features advanced technology to reduce detection by radar, “is proving very expensive to operate.”
Christopher Bolkcom, an expert on warplanes at the Congressional Research Service, said the mission capable rate was an incomplete gauge of an aircraft’s availability.
“As a rule of thumb, however, 62 percent is unsatisfactory,” he said.
Young said there were also struggles with low-observability and other issues that he did not name.
“Clearly, (there’s) work to be done there to make that airplane both capable and affordable to operate,” he said.
The F-22 had failed to meet most of its “key performance parameters” in operational tests last year and the trend was negative. Maintenance manpower hours per flying hour had gone up since previous tests, with the last one a “substantial” increase, he said.
Lockheed Martin, which has delivered 131 F-22s to the Air Force, declined to comment on Young’s remarks, referring calls to the Air Force, which did not immediately respond.
The Pentagon last week released $50 million in bridge funds to preserve a decision on future F-22 production for the incoming administration of President-elect Barack Obama.
The production line must start shutting down early next year unless Obama opts to buy another batch.
Lockheed produces the F-22 aircraft in partnership with Boeing Co (BA.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and United Technologies Corp’s (UTX.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) Pratt & Whitney, which builds its dual F-119 engines.
In June, Gates ousted the Air Force’s top military and civilian leaders amid a tug-of-war over funds for the F-22, which he considers ill-suited for post-Cold War conflicts such as Iraq and Afghanistan. (Reporting by Jim Wolf; Editing by Andre Grenon)
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Balls!!? (but not golf balls, apparently :().
OtakuHere you can look, how the real thing does look like and India will get. 😀
Oh yeah, silly me! ’cause if those aren’t really Python 5s(:rolleyes:), then the Russkies can always ask their buddies the Indians if they can take a sneak peak.
OtakuOuch!! Python 5 captured!! Now that’s a war trophy!! 1 more reason to chew your tie!! 🙂
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