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Back out of frog mode now. That’s an awesome video. Where do you find all that stuff. First the UN video, now this… already looking forward to your next video!
The F70 and the F100 had identical cockpits. Having said that, the F70 was available with two kinds of cockpit. The one that was identical to the F100 and another cockpit that was simplified to cater for the airlines flying to crummy airports. For instance the auto-land was less sophisticated on the simple F70.
Also, although the cockpit layout of the F70 is identical to that of the F100, some software changes had been made which made the F70 better. It was planned to introduce the same changes on the F100, but the bankruptcy prevented this. I believe Stork/Fokker (the left-overs of Fokker) offers it as a conversion but am not sure of this.
At the time the Fokkers where reasonably priced, regrettably the US Dollar was not. Therefore Fokker lost a lot of money, as was mentioned by Rekkof2004 this was one of the many factors leading to their demise.
Austrian has not only expressed an interest, but has actually decided to take a few F100s from AA. Not sure of the number but the first one(s) will be delivered not too long from now. Forgot the dates though.
The reason that the F100 is as succesful now as it is, is purely because it is dirt cheap. You can buy a F100 for the same price as a B732 I’ve been told. I probably do not have to tell you why the F100 is much preferred over the B732.
From what I have heard the F70 nowadays are not much cheaper than a new F70 back when Fokker was alive. The F70 is a really good plane that even today stands out. One of the reasons for that is no doubt the small production run. Only 64 where made (including protos) and 20 of them are now in the hands of KLM Cityhopper. And they seem to be adding more of them evey year!
The F50/F60 is completely different from the F70/F100. Comparing them would be useless.
It’s a shame it is broken up, but it has been parked at Ostend for a long time unused. You can’t preserve every plane. Hopefully they will cut of the cockpit and put it in a museum somewhere (Aviodrome, take the hint! ;)).
Nice shots! In particular the ATR is great. How many old liveries MyTravel are still around? I though they had all been repainted in the full new livery.
Closed for cars only, or also pedestrians? I hope they can wait till after the 29th when I’ll be there.
Different airlines require different planes. The ATR is a great plane, but when it comes down to using unprepared runways the Fokker will win all the time. Similarly the ATR was less quiet and indeed economical at the time. You have to bear in mind that the new ‘500 series was not available then.
To say the Fokker is not economical is silly. Plenty of airlines use it and are happy with it. KLM Cityhopper and VLM for instance.
Also comparing the costs for the planes you mentioned by Shamrock is not that usefull. Comparing the F50 with the ATR and Dash 8 I can understand. But to add the D228, E120 and even the 737NG and A320 is stretching it a bit. They are in a completely different market and it does not take a genius to figure that out. The size, the range, they are all very different.
But that still does not answer my question whether it was a wise decision to develop the F50/60 or if Fokker should have gone with the jetline only. Personally I have my doubts about it. It is a great plane but perhaps too little too late (the original F27 lasted for god knows how long with only an occaisional stretch and minor updates on the avionics) and at too high a price for Fokker.
Is it possible to acces that area by bus? I have driven on the wrong side of the road before, but using a rental car with the gear on the wrong side is kinda hard to get used too.
Good photos.
How close can you get to the runway at MAN? It seems to be quite close, maybe something to do for next years holiday. 😉
Great photos.
Those DC-10s are looking tired now. Get them repainted! That might help. 🙂
Not likely that this will happen though, considering that they are to be replaced by the A330. There are now 2 ’10ers in the new livery and perhaps another 2 or 3 will be added although that would surprise me.
My last entry into the competition probably, I do not expect to visit an airport prior to the closing date.
Today I did the final preparations for my upcoming trip to London….. I bought myself an image tank! 40gb of photos can now be shot, so that should be enough for 5 days. The store selling them is on the other side of the country so a stop at AMS was waranted. I was there for about 3 or at most 4 hours.
The following planes where seen with Dutch planes left out and the odd stuff in bold. Once again Air Pulmantur was at AMS, and just like last week I cocked up the photo. The plane was fully empty and took off like a rocket. It was too high to make a reasonable photo, just a view from underneath. You can just see the tail logo but that’s it.
N806NW *** *** A330-200 *** *** Northwest
TC-ONL *** *** A300-600 *** *** Onur Air
N153DL *** *** B767-300 *** *** Delta Airlines deltaflot livery
D-AHLI *** *** B737-500 *** *** Georgian Airlines / Air Zena old livery
N232NW *** *** DC-10 *** *** Northwest
TC-ORI *** *** A300F *** *** Orex, replacement for the Qatar flight
N182DN *** *** B767-300 *** *** Delta Airlines
9A-CTF *** *** A320-200 *** *** Croatia new livery
F-GOHE *** *** ERJ-135 *** *** Air France Régional
TC-OAA *** *** A300-600 *** *** Onur Air
TC-FLG *** *** A300-600 *** *** Fly Air with JAS livery but new tail logo and Sudan Airways titles!
PH-XRE *** *** B737-700 *** *** Transavia new logo jet for Basiqair
9V-SVD *** *** B777-200 *** *** Singapore Airlines, instead of a B747 flight
I-BIKE *** *** A320 *** *** Alitalia
TS-IOG *** *** B737-500 *** *** Tunisair
9M-MPL *** *** B747-400 *** *** Malaysia
9H-ABS *** *** B737-300 *** *** Air Malta
TF-ARL *** *** B747-400 *** *** Air Atlanta Icelandic for MAS Kargo
C-GGMX *** *** B767-300 *** *** Air Canada, instead of the usual B767-200
D-BPPP *** *** ATR-42 *** *** Contact Air for LH Regional, new livery
G-DOCN *** *** B737-400 *** *** British Airways
D-AEWA *** *** BAe 146 *** *** Eurowings
N645US *** *** B767-200 *** *** US Airways
4X-AXH *** *** B747-200 *** *** El Al Cargo
HL7426 *** *** B747-400F *** *** Asiana Cargo
TC-TJG *** *** A321 *** *** TAP Air Portugal, instead of usual A319
I-BIMH *** *** A319 *** *** Alitalia
HL-7434 *** *** B747-400F *** *** Korean Air Cargo
EC-IUA *** *** B747-200 *** *** Air Pulmantur
N776UA *** *** B777-200 *** *** United Airlines
G-EZJS *** *** B737-700 *** *** easyJet
For those that want to catch it, Tuesday evening at 18:30 it is expected at Lelystad. Pity I can’t come myself.
That’s a 200 with a converted upper deck. Ex KLM.
It was stuck together with glue.It was just plain ugly nothing compared to the F70 or the F100.
…using a procedure very similar to that of the DH Mosquito. That plane that every seems to love around the history forum (and for good reason).
Never mind that question, I found out. It is not Lelystad but the province of Flevoland instead which incidentally Lelystad is the capital of.
What’s the city seal on the forward fuselage? The seal of Lelystad perhaps?