Would Canberras have used Mallalla? It was always an “all over” field without runways.
Another “forgotten field” was Talgarno, south of Broome, where the recovery camp for missiles fired up from Woomera was located. Now known as Anna Plains, it had a thinly sealed 6000 ft runway. I visited the then recently abandoned but complete camp site in the 1960’s. It looked as though they’d simply turned the lights out and walked out.
Liz:
PM sent with Conrad’s email address….
he Chipmunk was listed for sale as a restoration project at the same time as the Tiger. It also has been sold.
Liz, do you know please where the Chipmunk went? DHC-1A’s are a very rare item in Oz (though not in NZ, oddly).
Sorry to hijack your Tiger Moth thread.
Cheers, Rod.
an Australian built Chipmunk
Hi Eric:
I’m sure this is a typo – there never were any Australian-built Chipmunks. Further, VT-CXF (not CFX) was a Canadian-built DHC-1A-2.
The gent with the scalped Toyota is the irrepressible “Whizz” W*****, I had the pleasure of flying with him later in Cathay.
but I have a feeling this Chipmunk was at various times 9M-ANI and 9V-BAE.
Correct, Ndedge!
So not as bad as it looks.
RMR, I think maybe it was worse!
I’ve just had the following information from a very authoritative source:
The photo would have been taken between 16/8/1957 and 24/8/1957.
The Chipmunk of the Malay Auxiliary Air Force based at Penang had run low on fuel and in attempting to land at Medjie Airstrip 3 miles NNE of Johor Bahru ran into a mangrove swam. Date of accident 15/8/1957. Initially declared a write off, it was decided to retrieve and rebuild the aircraft [cat 4] at Selatar, where it arrived on 24/8/1957. The photo shows the retrieval operation underway.
After rebuild the aircraft was returned to the MAAF in December 1957 and sold to the Royal Malaysian AF in early 1959 and became FM1022. Presented by the RMAF to the Royal Singapore Flying Club in 1963 as 9M-ANI- then 9V-BAE on breakup of the Federation.
To Australia in 1976 having been purchased Jeff Trappett when he was serving at RAAF Butterworth. Became VH-BBK in 1977 and has remained as such.
As I posted earlier, not to be confused with the “FM-1022” currently on display at Kuala Lumpur! Thank you to all who responded.
”This is the second fatal crash involving one of the company’s Tiger Moths in just two years.
Propstrike – yes, but:
1. the company has changed hands since then.
2. the circumstances would appear to be completely dissimilar (the earlier accident involved a structural failure/in-flight wing separation).
It also has to be said that it was a very blustery day here yesterday, without any implied criticism I wouldn’t have liked to be flying a Tiger in those conditions…
Sycamore:
In the cruise it should be trimmed/rigged with zero rudder input – high power/low speed lots of left rudder reducing as the speed increases, power off at high speed little input with increasing right rudder as the speed decreases.
MM:
Thanks for the “I can’t see yellow bands either” input, I spent a lot of time looking and ended up wondering if it was just me going blind. They should be there! While non Training Command Chipmunks acquired some odd schemes (e.g. WZ870) and indeed lost their yellow bands(e.g. WK616), it seems unusual indeed for RAFC aircraft.
DGH:
You may well be correct in that decking of the rear fuselage is “a trick of the light” but I’m still sure that the upper and forward cowling have been repainted in a light colour – the upper cowling conforms exactly with where the black anti-dazzle panel was when the aircraft left the factory, (hopefully) supporting my “re-paint” theory. Maybe WZ879 displays a later, much more elegant, form of the same marking. I really like your “Cambridge Blue” conjecture – this has a nice symmetry to it.
Mothminor:
Thank you so very much for those two links; what lovely evocative films!
Turning to The Sky is Ours – I concede my theory about the RAFC band only appearing on Chipmunks after around 1961 is clearly wrong . The markings are obviously in transition when this film was taken – incidentally nowhere in the credits could I see a date. I’ve pored over this film for hours; the quality and degree of colour varies, but it almost seems that there’s a lack of yellow trainer bands! Does WK556/”DF” seen at 10:34 have any bands at all? Again, when WP868/”JM” , now sporting the blue fuselage band, banks away from the camera at around 12:00 I’m struggling to see yellow wing bands. I can’t be definite given the quality of the images, but what do you think?
Turning to the Oxford UAS film, these are so obviously brand-new Chipmunks. The provision of blind-flying screen mountings in the front cockpit and that mind-bogglingly immaculate engine bay (at 1:41) support the 1950 date. I believe they are all in the ex-factory standard scheme (overall silver with yellow bands) – the different coloured rudder is a trick of the light (a small amount of left rudder deflection as the power is applied, perhaps?)
I.garey:
This photo can’t have been taken any earlier than 1959, which is when the trainer bands were replaced by painted DayGlo panels (as seen on your lovely photo).
Hi Steve:
I wasn’t intending for my response to be of the “I’m right/you’re wrong” category, merely wondering if you had any knowledge of a connection between WZ870 and the RAFC. I have come up with a very vague connection. Now I had previously posted that the Cranwell pale blue/trimmed dark blue band didn’t appear on the Chipmunk until the advent of the overall silver/DayGlo strips scheme, i.e around 1961, thus totally ruling this out. However I’ve since had pointed out that this scheme existed much earlier; there are photos of a RAFC BP Balliol back in 1955 wearing these bands. Perhaps the observer who noted WZ879 in “Cranwell T-bands” really meant that the colour was the same as the RAFC trim?
And now, to muddy the waters further, a very good source has come up with this photo:
WK616 was with the Duxford Station Flight from 29.8.1954 to 14.7.1958, i.e. overlapping WZ870’s stay there. Note the absence of the yellow Training Bands, and that the entire fuselage upper decking, nose cowl and just possibly the rudder appear to be in a light colour. I’m uncertain about the rudder; it could well be silver, but the tone has changed because of the angle at which it’s displaced. Grasping at straws I know, but is it just possible that the pale blue (if indeed that’s the colour) was some form of unofficial “Duxford colour”?)
Steve:
The Chipmunk was indeed for RAF College Cranwell
Based on what please? This is what I have on WZ870 (no mention of the RAFC):
C/N C1-0901 DHBf791 awaiting collection from DH’s Broughton Chester factory 15/6/1953
Allotted to 9 MU Cosford 18/6/1953
Allotted to Turnhouse SF 8/9/1953
Allotted to Acklington SF 9/7/1957
Allotted to Ouston SF 25/9/1957
Allotted to Duxford SF 17/10/1957
Allotted to West Raynham Communications Flight 28/1/1959
Allotted to Duxford SF 3/9/1959
W/O 1/11/1959 -hit sodium light after swinging on take off from Duxford and ended tipped upon nose in a ploughed field. Initially Cat4 but re-categorised Cat 5 and soc 4/11/1959. It became a ground instructional machine [7624M] with 5 Air Experience Flight.
Thank you too for identifying the Swift and the Canberra.
Cheers,
Rod.
Funny you should mention white, the same suggestion has just come up on the PPrune Forum.
Thanks.
Richard Willshire owns WP833 (the other “around the world” Chipmunk), based at Chino in California.
Skyraider:
Here’s something really special: a vic of Dutch Buffaloes beating up an airfield in Burma.
Not Burma, note the 8 Sqn RAAF Hudson (“NN” codes) seen briefly at 5:40 – somewhere on Java perhaps?
Janie:
Congratulations on what looks like it was a fabulous event – I’m bowled over with your massive attendance, that’s really impressive.
We have 50 Chipmunks on the Register here in Australia; the most I’ve ever seen together is eleven! This was at Groongal in 2003 (a fabled event, now sadly discontinued, on a private property near Griffith NSW). The comparatively low attendance was despite every Chipmunk owner in Australia being invited. Sure, we have the “tyranny of distance” to contend with (I flew 650 nm each way to attend for example), but your achievement remains impressive nevertheless.
There really are 11 Chipmunks in this photo!
Best regards,
Rod
Chipmunk VH-MMS (C1-0543, ex WG478).