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October 17, 2003 at 12:16 am in reply to: Airspace #2115369

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I don’t think there is too much I can say on this that hasn’t already been said,but I would just like to say that I’m on Kev’s side of the fence on this.It is vitally important that we involve people (we often talk about kids learning,but alot of younger adults ‘these days’ don’t have the kind of background knowledge of 20thC events as many of the older generations).In many instances it’s no good just showing them something,they have to get to know it to help them understand it.Personally I’m happy with the IWM’s ‘touchy feely’ policy in the AAM,both of airframes and exhibits (preferably replica items).I picked up an American Flak Jacket as worn by bomber crews in WW2 while I was in the AAM in July- wow that thing is heavy!How the hell was the guy supposed to scramble out of a gyrating bomber with that thing on??? These are the kinds of thoughts and questions which can only be prompted by ‘experiencing’ the object.
I would like to see more cockpit sections displayed alongside the complete aircraft or atleast a cockpit mock up,particularly in museums where the aircraft are ‘out of bounds’.That way you can get a feel for the machine without having to touch/damage the original aircraft.

October 16, 2003 at 10:00 pm in reply to: Concorde #2115406

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That’s the official line Jorgo,but I think the idea is that the warning will discourage a percentage of people to stay away,ie those who aren’t too keen to see it but would have gone for the hell of it.How on earth they plan to control the throng who are set on going on the day I’ve no idea.Personally I think it would be good to see chaos around Heathrow-BA would get a load of stick for not organising things better and it would serve ’em right! :p The more the merrier…

October 16, 2003 at 12:38 am in reply to: Airspace #2115809

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After the many lengthy replies and requests,you’ll be glad to hear I have just one…

I’d like to see the Shackleton’s engines displayed to best effect…ie,still attached to a freestanding and complete Shackleton! 😉
Ah well,it’s a nice thought anyway…

October 16, 2003 at 12:30 am in reply to: Concorde #2115811

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Ok,I’m gonna have a gripe folks,take cover…

I’m absolutely LIVID about BA’s choice of museums,it’s insane.Why oh why do we want to send them to USS Intrepid and the Bahamas when there are museums (Brooklands and East Fortune) who could offer them a better home?? Agreed they wouldn’t be garaunteed a long term future,but with the choices BA have made they CERTAINLY don’t have a log term future.
The plan to send one to Barbados seems to be particulalrly bad IMHO,it bears a worryingly uncanny resemblance to plan some Greek chap had of establishing a museum around a couple of Shackletons in Cyprus.Ten years down the line,we have a plan that went under almost before it began and a couple of significant airframes being attacked by the tropical sun and eaten away by the salty atmosphere.I’d say we’ll be lucky to see the Barbados Concorde still standing on it’s undercarriage in ten years if they don’t put her in a hangar or build a museum around her ASAP.
BA’s handling of her retiremant has also been extremely poor.I consider myself very lucky because I live between the approaches to 27L and 27R,so I’ve seen plenty of her in her last few months.Others have seen nothing,and wont if the police have thier way even on her retirement day.BA should’ve taken some to airshows and other events,the lack of fuss BA have made of the retirement is seriously disappointing.

October 15, 2003 at 11:53 pm in reply to: Any Preserved Andovers? #2115828

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Just while we’re on the subject of Andovers,does anybody know the identity and fate of an extremely sad looking desert-camo painted example which used to sit over on the far side of Benson airfield 10+ years ago?Used to see it when I went flying in 6AEF Chipmunks when I was an Air Cadet.

October 15, 2003 at 12:02 am in reply to: Ray Hanna and brietling team #2116418

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“Can you imagine searching for ‘the Hun in the sun’ through all that metalwork? Awful.”

Surelly that should be ‘the Hurri in the sun’?? 😀

October 13, 2003 at 11:15 pm in reply to: whats the purest warbird flying? #2117043

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What’s the progress on the RNHF SeaHawk and SeaFury?

October 13, 2003 at 10:03 pm in reply to: Ray Hanna and brietling team #2117125

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Hi Mark,
Thanks for that,I thought the current P40 didn’t have a back seat,or atleast that the CAA wouldn’t let you use it,it’s just that those khaki overalls look alot like the ones the Brietlings wear.

October 13, 2003 at 8:38 pm in reply to: Ray Hanna and brietling team #2117186

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Hi Mark,
Just wondering,is Ray flying the Chinese P40E in that picture or the old ‘Sneak Attack’?

October 13, 2003 at 12:12 am in reply to: Is there any other La9s anywhere? #2117694

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Survivors Listing

La-7 Kbely,Prague,Czech Republic

La-7 Monino,Russia

La-9 Bucharest,Romania

La-9 Beijing,China (Chinese Aviation Museum)

La-9 Beijing,China (Aeronautical Institute)

La-9 Duxford,OFMC

La-9UTI Beijing,China (Chinese Aviation Museum)

La-11 Duxford,TFC

La11 Jawa Tengah,Singapore

La11 Beijing,China (Aeronautical Institute)

La-11 Nizhny Novgorod,Russia

La-11 Beijing,China(Chinese Aviation Museum)

Total: 2 La-7’s
5 La-9’s
5 La-11’s

October 12, 2003 at 11:45 pm in reply to: Is there any other La9s anywhere? #2117698

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There are a small number of survivang La-9s and 11’s in static condition,most of them in China,where they are nearly all on outdoor display.There was an article about late-series Lavochkins in Aeroplane a couple of months back which had a survivors listing I can dig out for you.I’ll dig it out and post again later…

October 12, 2003 at 11:36 pm in reply to: Musee de L'Air open day pics #2117704

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Hi James.The mystery fighter is a Breguet 1001 Taon,an experimental fighter bomber,flown for the first time on July 26th 1957.It set a 1,000km closed curcuit speed record in April 1958 of 649mph,and then re-set the record in July at 668mph. For more see below:

http://meltingpot.fortunecity.com/clyde/808/taon.html

Great pictures James,thanks for sharing them with us. 😎

October 11, 2003 at 1:13 am in reply to: "Tin hats on everybody !" #2118234

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“And tonight I have with me Mr. Raymond Luxury-Yacht…”

“No,no,it’s spelt ‘Raymond Luxury-Yacht’,but it’s pronounced Throat Wobbler-Mangrove.”

(preganant pause)

“You’re a very silly man and i’m not going to interview you…”

October 10, 2003 at 8:32 pm in reply to: One to Watch on TV TONIGHT 10/10/03 #2118438

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Beat me to it Merlin…;)

October 10, 2003 at 8:30 pm in reply to: "Tin hats on everybody !" #2118443

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Blimey,what’ve I started here??? 😮 lol

There’s a mess in here alright,but no Messiah…
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