The Wright-built version of the Sapphire was the J65,and it seems it wasn’t as good an engine as the original.The changes Wright made to the engine meant that it was both heavier and less powerful (one source I have here states the J65 was the better part of 2,000lb down on power output compared to the original Sapphire!).The J65 was installed in the the Republic F84 Thunderstreak and RF84 Thunderflash and the combination of the under-performing engine and the heavywieght airframe made for some interesting take offs,interesting in the sense that take-off didn’t always occur!
Thanks for those Peter,it’s good to see her getting some TLC.Has a date been set for her removal from the plinth??
Hi Darren,
My understanding is that the red SeaFury was bought by Kermit Weeks and that it is in storage here in the UK awaiting restoration to airworthiness.
Nice pics,btw. 😎
I have to say I agree with David and Andy’s comments,selling the Hornet Moth does seem a little bit ga-ga.As David pointed out,this particular aircraft has an extensive history of military and civilian use in Britain and therefore seems to be a very fitting aircraft for the collection.Like Andy,I do find it odd that the collection states a lack of public interest as a reason for putting her up for sale-how many people know what an English Electric Wren is,or a Parnell Elf??I know these are unique machines,but Hornet Moths don’t exactly grow on trees either.
As for the Jungmann,I’m not sure what to think about this one.My understanding is that the Jungmann has been purchased because it can be flown in relatively poor weather conditions,and so will give the public something to see when some of the collection’s less tolerant aircraft are grounded due to the weather.That said,I think David’s point about it having little British significance is very relavant and to my eyes it pales into insignificance when compared to the Hornet Moth.Besides,what will Private Pike shoot at if he doesn’t have the Hornet Moth to have a go at?? 😀
As for whether we should comment,ofcourse we should.It’s a free world and the Shuttleworth Collection relies on donations and membership fees etc from the general public,and they as the ‘consumer’ should always be allowed to express thier views. Whether these views are right or not is another matter,but we’re entitled to them all the same!
Cheers for the pics Andrew,interesting to see.I’ve been wanting to visit the museum at my namesake airfield for years,but it’s quite a trek up from London and so far I still haven’t managed it.It’s yet another of those places/museums on my’ must see’ list!
How many of the wartime buildings still survive on the site?I know the old theatre block was deteriorating quite rapidly a few years ago.
Thanks for your comments folks 🙂
“The Concorde at Farnborough shot is probably 1992 or 1994. It can’t be 1995 because there was no airshow in ’95 (they are only held on “even” years).”
Cheers for pointing that out Eric,it seems I was having a blonde moment when I typed that.It would be 1994.
“Is an “Airshoe” a tyre?
Thirdly, is your signature really as naughty as I think it is?”
Janie,I realised the mistake in the title of the thread a moment after I posted it,but it appears you can’t edit the title once it’s up.Humbug! As for Raymond Luxury Yacht,he appears in a sketch in Monty Python’s Flying Circus wearing a giant polystyrene nose…
http://www.ibras.dk/montypython/episode22.htm#5
I don’t know of any dodgy meanings to the name,but that’s not to say there isn’t one!
“Well well well… Thanks Ant, I never knew that!
Any idea what he’s actually saying? I can make out “Flaps set”, but the rest is drowned out by by guitar and drums…”
Hi Steve,
I found this website which contains all the lyrics for Floyd songs,including the pre-recorded spoken bits etc.Here’s the lyrics page for Momentary Lapse of Reason…
http://www.allfloyd.com/lyrics/Moment.html
Reading through the lyrics,it seems as though the aircraft they are flying is some sort of multi-engine type,perhaps even a warbird.There’s mention of ‘Friction locks’,which as far as I know only appear on old propliners and warbirds.I’ve just remembered that a DC-3 is used in the Learning to Fly video,so perhaps they’re flying a Dak???
“I was lead to believe that the “Final Cut” caused the break up of the band, as Gilmour & Mason thought that the tracks were just rejects from The Wall, as are many of the tracks on Amused to Death, personally I prefer Radio K.a.o.s.”
To be honest,I think the Floyd were going to the wall (pun pun!) alot earlier than this.The band members themselves have said that the last album they worked together on was ‘Wish You Were Here’ in 1975.”Animals” was written almost entirely by Waters,as was ‘The Wall’.Keyboard player Rick Wright left the band after the Wall tour in about 1981,and Mason and Gilmour basically became session musicians on ‘Final Cut’, it’s really a Roger Waters album under the Pink Floyd name.
…and the last bunch (I can hear all you dial-up users breathing sighs of relief!)
1) Stephen Grey taxiing out for an air-test in the newly arrived P51C prior to Legends ’97,his first flight in the aircraft…
2)…Fastening the canopy prior to performing the power checks.
3)The ill-fated and much-missed Spitfire TE566 taxiing out for display with what looks like Charlie Brown at the helm.
4) ML417 and EP120 await thier turn for take off.Spot the Lysander! 😉
5) Concorce G-BOAC at Farnborough in 1995(?),being pushed back to her parking spot on the apron near the (now demolished) control tower.It’s still saddening to think that Concorde is now Flypast material. 🙁
1) Fiat G.59 I-MRSV taxiing in front of Sally B.This is one aircraft I don’t mind getting in the way of a B17. 🙂
2)OFMC Fury in Iraqi colours,taxiing past TFC’s P47 and P63.
3 and 4) Give us a wave! The BBMF Lanc taxies into her parking slot.Seeing pics of her in the glossy scheme make you appreciate how much better she looks in the satin these days.
4) Lyndsay Walton’s Nord Pingoun/’Me-108′ NJ+C11
…and now onto Duxford.I think all of these were taken at Flying Legends shows,but I can’t pinpoint which photo’s are from which years…
1) OFMC’s Corsair unfolding her wings,followed by TFC’s example.
2)Sally B going through soem checks before take off,complete with that characteristicly smokey no.2 engine she used to have.
3,4 and 5) Black 6 taxiing out for display.I think the two smaller pics are from ’95,and the other from ’97.
Dave Gilmour is not the only PF member with an interest in aircraft;drummer Nick Mason owns and flies a Piper Cub based at,I think,Sywell.Both Gilmour and Mason learned to fly as a means of overcoming a fear of flying that they had developed during thier years of touring in the 70’s.
According to a radio interview with Dave Gilmour a year or so ago,the excerpt of radio chatter that appears in the middle of the track ‘Learning to Fly’ is a recording done during one of Nick’s flying lessons.There’s a useful bit of info for you…
“Tenuously related… didn’t the late Mark Hanna fly the Buchon in the video for a Travis track shortly before his accident? Seem to think it was a Travis track anyway…”
I thought that for a long time,although there was a post on here not so long ago which stated that Nigel Lamb did the flying for the video.Can anyone confirm?
“Across the clouds I see my shadow fly,out of the corner of my watering eye…”
Welcome aboard,Solent! We’re all a bit mad on here,but perfectly harmless I assure you…well,most of us anyway!Harmless that is,we’re definately all mad…:D
Hang on,IIRC this aircraft has been displayed with her wings spread since arrival,yet here they’re folded.She was also in a very shady spot under the trees in one corner of the outdoor display area.(Well lets’ face it,it would be worrying if the trees were growing indoors!).
I’ve recently heard whispers about this aircraft being bought as a spares source by someone in the UK who already has one Gannet on the way to airworthiness. Could the sudden activity with XL482 mean she’s on the move??
Well if I’m allowed a second guess,I’ll stick with my previous suggestion of a T.IX,but change the location to India in the 1970’s.ML417 perhaps??