By far Germany
Examples:
1) Siemens AG
2) Daimler Chrysler
3) BMW
4) Rheinmental DeTec
5) KMW
6) HDW – Thyssen (even without Swedish Kockums)
7) Merck and Bayer
8) Deutsche Boerse
9) E-ON (Energy)
From Britain only BAE Systems is the most powerful corporation
And from France DCN shipyards, Peugeot-Citroen and Renault SA (that also has Nissan).
By far Germany
Examples:
1) Siemens AG
2) Daimler Chrysler
3) BMW
4) Rheinmental DeTec
5) KMW
6) HDW – Thyssen (even without Swedish Kockums)
7) Merck and Bayer
8) Deutsche Boerse
9) E-ON (Energy)
From Britain only BAE Systems is the most powerful corporation
And from France DCN shipyards, Peugeot-Citroen and Renault SA (that also has Nissan).
The Den Zenden Provincien frigates, though very good, they use the SM2 Block IV AA missiles. The USA didn’t allow the sale of the “Kidd” class destroyers to Greece because of the SM2 missiles (and to keep the BS balance of power in the Aegean). So, FREMM. Don’t worry, we may go for a Rotterdam class LPD…
About the T45 destroyer, I admire the Sampson Radar, but since it derived from the Horizon programme, no need for such big ships.
And about Russia, don’t forget the Zubrs…
[QUOTE=Saturn5]Fremm has the advantedge over Spruance’s of being new and European. But on the other hand Freem project is too expensive. The deal of Fremm was twice postponed because of financial difficulties. The whole project costs around $11 billion for 27 ships. That makes ca. $400 million for one ship.
I wonder how Greece will find money to participate in Fremm programme, if even Italy and France find it difficult to pay.
[QUOTE]
The consortium, according to media, can offer a discounted price per frigate
According to statements by the MoD in the Greek Parliament, only 2 Standard class Frigates will be modernised, and the money will go to the new Frigate programme. The French have offered Greece a place in the FREMM programme, so thinks look interesting for the HN…
And especially with the Aster 30 PAAMS (range up to 120km!) :dev2: :dev2:
Italy, France and UK won’t say anything (like in the SCALP EG)
I wonder how will the US react :dev2:
They will then realize that the Kidd Destroyers with the SM2 Block III should had been sold to us…
I hope the following July to see this marvelous weather (and Acropolis Rally!!)
I hope the following July to see this marvelous weather (and Acropolis Rally!!)
Sad… He stopped football at his 27 but didn’t stop alcohol. Man, this is a lethal addiction. 😡 🙁
RIP Irish super-star 🙁
Sad… He stopped football at his 27 but didn’t stop alcohol. Man, this is a lethal addiction. 😡 🙁
RIP Irish super-star 🙁
But not without a price. 18 year old Rosenborg-player Per Ciljan Skjelbred was tackled pretty hard by Olympiakos’ Ieroklis Stoltidis approximately seven minutes into the match. He broke both shinbones in his right leg. Ouch!
I hope he did not do it on purpose. An investigation might take place.
But not without a price. 18 year old Rosenborg-player Per Ciljan Skjelbred was tackled pretty hard by Olympiakos’ Ieroklis Stoltidis approximately seven minutes into the match. He broke both shinbones in his right leg. Ouch!
I hope he did not do it on purpose. An investigation might take place.
Plus that Rosenborg acheived a 1-1 score against our life-lasting rivals, Olympiakos!
Plus that Rosenborg acheived a 1-1 score against our life-lasting rivals, Olympiakos!
Heard that the Norwegian armed forces are going to participate on the Hellas-Sat 2 satellite. I translated this text from
http://www.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_kathremote_405561_23/11/2005_139050
“Their confidence to the Greek and Greek-Cypriot telecommunications satellite Hellas-Sat 2 express many European Forces.
Thus, after the Lithuanian and Bulgarian Forces, the French Navy, the UK’s SAS, another country has been added. The armed forces of Norway, after a contest between Hellas-Sat 2 and Intelsat decide to participate on the Greek one, even though Norwegian companies participate on the Intelsat. The Norwegian DoD is going to be connected with the Middle-Eastern Expenditionary Force of the Norwegian Army.
A similar interest has been also expressed for the US Pentagon for the usage of the Greek satellite in the Iraqi region.”
Heard that the Norwegian armed forces are going to participate on the Hellas-Sat 2 satellite. I translated this text from
http://www.kathimerini.gr/4dcgi/_w_articles_kathremote_405561_23/11/2005_139050
“Their confidence to the Greek and Greek-Cypriot telecommunications satellite Hellas-Sat 2 express many European Forces.
Thus, after the Lithuanian and Bulgarian Forces, the French Navy, the UK’s SAS, another country has been added. The armed forces of Norway, after a contest between Hellas-Sat 2 and Intelsat decide to participate on the Greek one, even though Norwegian companies participate on the Intelsat. The Norwegian DoD is going to be connected with the Middle-Eastern Expenditionary Force of the Norwegian Army.
A similar interest has been also expressed for the US Pentagon for the usage of the Greek satellite in the Iraqi region.”