RNZAF Sunderlands
Hi
Is there anyone out there who can assist me with some research on the aircraft, especially a production list and/or casualty list
Many thanks
Theres a site: http://www.kiwiaircraftimages.com which lists the
Sunderlands operated by the RNZAF plus the Sandringhams
and Solents operated post WW2 if you are interested.
Fates are also listed.
Theres a farmer on the Chatham Is. down here who used one
as a barn on his farm.
Regards,
Simon Beck
What a lovely artefact.
Do you intend to preserve it as it stands or restore it?
Moggy
The current plan is to leave it as is and put it
on display in a “home theatre” I’m building in the back
of the garage.
I’ve been told to be very careful about sanding the metal or
attempting to restore it myself as the paint and
primers used back then contained a lot of lead and could be
toxic if I start stripping it down with sandpaper etc.
If anyone else has any thoughts to that I’d be keen to hear.
Cheers
Simon Beck
New DB – Filming locations
Hi all,
I live in Christchurch, New Zealand where theres the RNZAF
Museum at Wigram which was once the main base for the
southern end of the country.
I would be willing to bet that exteriors with the lancasters will
be shot on this now closed base (since 1995) which features
three large WW2 era hangars with open fields and concrete
apron / taxiways all in good condition and not utlilize by
any regular airftraffic.
Its the only part of the country with such a location, all
other RNZAF bases are either to small, modernised or
closed down.
The hangars would easily hold a Lancaster replica.
Although, RNZAF Ohakea might also be a consideration as
it still active with a local work force and remote from
media cameras etc.
It will be interesting to see what develops.
Peter Jackson’s “Wellywood” is only a few hundred km’s north
of Christchurch where I’m assuming all interior / flightdeck
scenes and CGI work will be completed.
Cheers
Simon Beck
Hollywood Aviation Buff
I was interested to note that the carrier used was the Yorktown, you can just about make out the slightly angled flight deck in the film, but I do find this a wonderful scene, taking off into the sunrise as well, does anyone know where the carrier was when it was filmed, presumably the a/c landed back on dry land.
Pete,
The Yorktown scenes were shot I believe off the coast of San Diego
in Dec. 1968 – all pilots were carrier qualified. The Top Gun carrier
scenes were shot in the same general location in 1985.
My favourite shot is the Kate with the blue flame on the exhaust on her
take-off run, even better on the Dolby Surround!
Simon
Thanks to all…
A big thanks to matt and evryone else who
contributed to this thread, I appreciate it
very much.
Just out of interest for anyone else who happens to visit
this thread, the only other Bristol Freighter film that seems
to have been made is the 1988 film The Rrescue.
Really aimed at kids – it does feature Bristol Mk.31 NZ5910
ex-RNZAF plus some great shots of RNZAF aircraft in
action. It has a special place for me as the Korean
prison was built nearby where I lived and I can still remember
the massive lights they used to film night scenes.
Cheers
Simon Beck
Tora plane destruction
Pete,
Heres a list of what I know was done as far
as a/c destruction is concerned:
4 Catalina hulks from Orange County were
destroyed for the film. They were wired by
Steward-Davis Inc. who did the Val conversions.
1 B-25J (N9754Z) found at Honolulu airport
was blown up in the hangar scene.
1 of the B-17’s was damaged in a wheels up
landing but it was later repaired. Scene was
actually used in the film.
The P-40 take-off was filmed next-door to Wheeler
airfield and is not the actaul airfield used by
Talyor / Welch on the day which was miles
away at Haliewa.
The hangar was a real one but not sure where
it was – will write more later if you are interested,
I don’t have my notes in front of me right now.
The Japanese carrier take-off (highlight for many)
was done off the USS Yorktown in Dec. 1968 with
almost all 30 Harvard conversions. The Yorktown
was then used to carry all aircraft to Hawaii for
filming.
The only mystery is the ID of the Stearman bi-plane
with an N34307 rego.???? no-one no where knows
anything about this a/c…….
Hope this helps you out.
Simon Beck
http://www.uswarplanes.net
Thanks for looking, I did the same with my
copy and had no luck also.
I did see however a rare 707-138B which had
been “lost” to airliner fans for a few years…
rego. CN-ANS of the Moroccan Air Force. Its
the wreck at the airport near the top of the film.
It was originally a Qantas plane built in 1961.
cheers
Simon Beck
http://www.uswarplanes.net
Pearl Harbor Spitfires
Thanks for the all the above information, its really
filled a gap in my “aviation film database” for
Pearl harbor. There were over 30 aircraft used for
this film!!!
I saw on the Palm Springs Air Museum site that their
Mk.XIV Spitfire NH904 was imported to England for
this sequence but Graham Adlam has said this isn’t
so. I’ll have to question them on this.
I see REF says “RF-T” (G-BKMI) was MT928 where Phantom
Phixer says it was MV154???
Cheers
Simon Beck
http://www.uswarplanes.net
Thanks guys for the above info’ – thats a fantastic website as well!!
Question – are any of the aircraft named in Ballard’s book?
And if you want to try and track it to the end, see if you can track down the Art Dept. Good luck…
I read Ballard’s book a long time ago but I don’t think
he ever named them.
Since DIGBY was there he would be correct, no dealt
about it – did he work on the film?
Several Journalists around my office looked at the above
photo and thought it was a “J” like I did. In researching movie
avaition I find you go 10 steps back for every step forward.
True, True…good excuse to fly with the canopy back though and an elbow
on the sill, maybe chomping a cigar, ha ha.
The initial letter does indeed look like a ‘J’; I understand it was to be read as a script ‘t’. However it was referred to as ‘Tugboat’ by those involved in the filming at the time, and that’s what we called it when I saw it after the filming. I’d never heard ‘jugboat’ as a term until reading it here. Ref Warbirds Worldwide 2.
Although I’ve corrected my movie database to “Tugboat”
I did some digging and found the “Jugboat” term to be
a type of Asian river boat sort of like the “lorry” version of
a Sampan.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Beck
I was of the opinion Jugboat is a reference
to “a jug of beer”???
I cannot imagine why anyone would name
the coolest WW2 fighter a “Tugboat”?
Coolest? It’s an enclosed cockpit with a bubble canopy that only turned up after the hard yards were over!
I still say its the coolest fighter of WW2 regardless of
stature, everyones got their right to an opinion correct.
Jugboat or Tugboat
This is very interesting – I find theres
an equal number of sources quoting
G-PSID as named Jugboat or Tugboat
in Empire of the Sun.
So I put the DVD on and paused it at
the waving fly-by and it looks to me that
its a “J” not a “T”.
The word is a bit rough but I reckon it
says “Jugboat”, I am open to anyones
opinion with more direct knowledge
and am interested to hear more.
I was of the opinion Jugboat is a reference
to “a jug of beer”???
I cannot imagine why anyone would name
the coolest WW2 fighter a “Tugboat”?
Simon
Sorry, forgot to note:
Ray Hanna flew G-PSID “599” in the waving flyby.
The B-29 and various other flying shots
were done with scaled RC models.
I have a picture too of the “Zero” fighter
Christian Bale played in early on in the film
at an airport somewhere in England, Bovington
I think?
Simon Beck
http://www.uswarplanes.net
Allan,
Thanks for clearing that one up for me and in responce to
the other answers I got, yes I believe letters were assigned
more than once as AJ-C was ED817 and also ED910.
Thats what I found researching the Chastise Lancs anyway
but I’m not an expert on RAF serial numbers.
cheers guys!
Simon Beck
http://www.uswarplanes.net