Sorry I’m late to this thread but I thought I’d contribute what
I know about this aircraft since its a speciality subject for me.
The OFFICIAL name of the C-82 was Packet, this is after
the 18th & 19th century British “Packet Ships” that carried freight
to the Far East and the USA. The nickname of “Flying Boxcar” was
the UNOFFICIAL name tagged by the press / pilots etc. It was
in fact printed on the side of the XC-82 in some pics as was mentioned
earlier in this thread. The name refers to the cargo hold being similar
to a railroad boxcar.
When the C-119 came along the OFFICIAL name to Fairchild was still
Packet (the original prototype designation of the C-119 was in fact
the XC-82B). But the USAF decided there were enough changes to warrant
a new designation to C-119 and a new OFFICIAL name of Flying Boxcar.
The USMC kept Packet as the official name for their R4Q-1 / -2 aircraft.
Although a USMC C-119 Radio Op I spoke too said they were never called
that among crews etc. that he flew with.
Other military names known to these aircraft are Packplane (XC-120),
Skyvan (XC-119H), Shadow (AC-119G) and Stinger (AC-119K).
In civilian guise the C-82 was known by the marketing brand names
as Jet-Packet and Skytruck. Skytruck being used by
Elleston Trevor in his 1964 book “The Flight of the Phoenix”.
The company that converted them was Steward-Davis Inc. They
also did C-119 conversions branded as C-119 Jet-Pak and Stolmaster.
A lot of these were used in the US as fire-bombers etc., especially Hawkins & Powers
and Hemet valley.
224 C-82 Packets were built – type (N6887C) used in the 1965 version
of Flight of the Phoenix with James Stewart.
1185 C-119 Flying Boxcar / Packets were built – type (N15501) used in the
2004 version of Flight of the Phoenix with Dennis Quaid.
Kaiser-Frazer built 71 C-119F’s before contracts were cancelled, the remaining
88 were completed by Fairchild but retained their Kaiser msn’s. At the same
time Fairchild also picked up the Kaiser C-123 contract going on to build
over 300 of the C-123B Provider, improving the design from the outset.
6 complete C-82 Packets survive today with a few more fuselages around.
Cheers
Simon Beck
http://www.uswarplanes.net
Hi,
I’ve only skim read this thread but I believe there a
number of these aircraft in Malaysia, although many
may only be a parts source now.
Don’t know how you might start looking for them.
S.Beck
Thats a brilliant list!!!! – I’ve been looking for such a list
for a long time but theres nothing out there at all.
Where did you collect this infomation I’m keen to know?
I was in Malaysia in 2000 and 2003 and noted many of
the numbers in the museum in KL but thats all I’ve been
able to find. The staff there did not know anything and
attempts to access their “library” came to a dead end.
There was a local book written and published in Malaysia
on the hsitory of the air force but I have not been able
to locate a copy.
S. Beck
Just to summerise the serial numbers run:
FM1701 / FM1742
These were later changed to:
FM1140 / FM1155
Then in 1984 they were changed to:
M23-01 / M23-42
I’ve seen M23-33 while in KL and I knew they ran
as high as M23-38.
Question is do the new M numbers match the old
FM numbers in order?
Simon
I believe the An-2 was a Polish built “Colt” registered in
Alaska as N87AN.
The DC-3 appears to be Skip Evan’s one that was also
seen in “Pearl Harbor” (2001) in the final return scene.
I won’t be seeing the film till this Saturday but I think there
might be a Lockheed PV-2 in some airport shots?
Can’t wait to se these Sabre’s………
S.Beck
G-ASDB a Druine D.31 Turbulent.
A new aircraft type I had not seen before, should have looked
in the mirror:)
The latest issue of Warbirds International Vol. 27 / No. 2
features an article on Mr. Tallichet and has four stills of the
Catalina ferry trip from S. America.
Simon Beck
http://www.uswarplanes.net
The Blue Max replicas have certainly been in a few movies….
I live in New Zealand and didn’t realise there so many of them here
(mostly interested in WW2 warbirds), a visit to Blenheim where
they seem to be displayed might be on the cards.
S. Beck
So “Zeppelin” was another film that was made with the BM replicas –
was it too ever finished and released?
Simon B.
Heres a few interesting ones:
Spielberg’s first feature “The Sugarland Express”
has a Hughes 500 (Turbine engine) with the sound
of a Bell 47G dubbed over the top.
Abbott & Costello’s film “Keep Em’ Flying” (1941)
has an out of control Stearman for ground scenes
that suddenly whiches to a Boeing 100 when it becomes
airborne.
The close-up of the Phoenix skids in the take-off
sequence in “Flight of the Phoenix” (1965), you can
see buildings inthe background.
Has anyone noticed this one:
“Those Magificent Men in their Flying machines” (1965)
when the train goes through the tunnel and destorys
the aircraft on top you can clearly see a NUCLEAR
power station in the background.
Simon
Thats the one alright – thanks for the swift reply.
Whats the date on the photo and would you have
history and ownership details?
Cheers
Simon
Here in Christchurch, New Zealand at the now closed
Wigram AFB which has become a suburb since 1995 theres:
Harvard Drive, Mustang Ave. and Corsair Drive among
others.
Simon Beck
New Zealand
Mystery C-82
Heres a Google earth picture which helped me pin-point
its location to start with.
I’ve also written to a local newspaper but it was english
so I don’t know how much luck I’ll have.
Also written to a Mexican AF captain who I was told knows
many things about aircraft locales etc.
I’m very interested in finding this aircraft, I’ve studied the
C-82 for over 10 years now and to miss the aircraft by
two weeks!!!!…….A friend in Mexico drove there in his car
and the security guard told him it had been trucked out.
I appreciate all the help been offed by everyone on this thread.
Cheers
Simon Beck
http://www.uswarplanes.net
Mexican C-82
“If it is 44-23015 it has a fantastic history.”
Sure does have a fantastic history. I’ve traced it
from the factory door to the last known record of
it which was around 1971.
Link to: http://www.uswarplanes.net/phoenix1.html
The thing is it dissappeared a few weeks ago and
no-one knows where it has gone????
Simon