HEADLINES:
BURIED SPITFIRES TURN OUT TO BE AIRFIX KITSETS FROM BURMA TOYSHOP!
DOOLITTLE B-25 STILL FLIES AS AIRLINER IN RUSSIA
CONCORDE PLANS ACTUALLY STOLEN FROM THE RUSSIANS!
RAF HQ BUILDING ON PLINTH OUTSIDE MOD BUILDING
It would be very nice to see Mr. Rudhall’s books reproduced as
e-books as these would sell to a much wider market and generate
further interest in this period in Warbird history.
In fact e-books of many rarer aviation titles would be great – Alan Blue’s
B-24 book and Frank Tallman’s ‘Flyig the Old Planes’ are two that come
to mind.
Ted Whaley in a C-82 Jet-Packet. This guy flew the Packet for many years
and flew almost every civil registered C-82 there was incuding the few
derelicts rescued out of Mexico in 1967!
Paul Mantz in any aeroplane.
Frank Tallman in a Stearman.
Chuck Yeager in the Bell X-1.
Ray Hanna in the P-51D.
“It’s not fiction. It has been done. Many WWII Fighter aces witnessed it and performed it, particularly in the P-51D. It is a gutsy manoeuvre that can go wrong if not executed correctly.
It requires a high enough speed for the rudder to work effectively, but slow enough to spill off all of said speed.
You essentially stall the plane by jamming the rudder full deflection, cutting throttle and snapping back on the stick”.
Ah! that was the answer I was looking for, so it was a real move. I think
the problem was it may not have been done so well on screen which is why
I questioned it to start with. I think some faith has been restored (to a
small degree) with CGI.:)
Sorry about the wrong topic category and thank you for the data.
“It was a ” Boys Own ” adventure movie , based on a true happening . It was entertainment”
How come it wasn’t promoted as such then, I understood it was a drama concerning race issues
the observation was meant as just that not a swing at the film?
My armchair has a fitting for a flight-sim yoke so I guess I am an ‘armchair dog-fighter’;)
Just a guess here but could it be a BQ-7 unmanned flying bomb conversion?
On the forum we have previously discussed the fate of the replica Kates, Vals and Zeroes made in California for the movie.
But what happened to the similar replicas made in Japan for the Japanese sections of the movie? From reading an old “Flypast” I understand some replicas were constructed by the Kawasaki aircraft company for the Japanese scenes although some unmodified AT-6s were also used. Do any of the Japanese – made “Tora” replicas still survive?
Colin,
Hi, I hope this info can help answer your question. There were 21 T-6G
Texans converted from Japanese (JASDF, JMSDF) serving aircraft at the
time of filming. There were three flyable Zeroes converted and five Kates
with US reg.: N6520, N6522, N6524, N6526, N6529. These are the Kates
we see in the opening credits and in the practice runs past the Geisha Girls
some way into the film. The kits were supplied to Kawasaki by Cal-Volair
in the US.
The other 13 T-6G Texans were standard Harvards used in background
scenes with very little conversion work, some had folding wing tips
though. Their fate is unknown.
12 Zeroes were completed in the US, these are the ones seen on the
Warbird scene today. 9 Kates were completed and 10 Vals (not 9 as
often reported, the mystery one being N18102 marked as ‘AI-245’ –
FAA records for this one are missing!).
Excellent reply and I thank you for your input here.
But it begs one question? What evidence is there that
the 141602 s/n was in fact reissued?
It would indicate that the 58-265 airframe was purchased
outright by Westland and that these funds were allocated
to the 58-444 airframe, hence the same BuNo. Just
speculation based on how the US numbering system works.
Are you counting ones outside the UK?
I have an unrestored Armstrong-Whitworth manual, single gun from
an Airspeed Oxfrd in my garage.
Theres also a restored one used as a kids ‘play item’ at the RNZAF
museum in Christchurch, NZ.
Roobarb:
I think they simply retained their miliary IDs during filming as it was all
just a ‘temporary’ arrangement only. The Spanish crash report I have from
the AF lists the military s/n only and no civil Spanish one.
Interestingly I also received a letter from a Spanish ‘civil’ department
that lists a crash at El Corpero on March 21, 1968 and lists the aircraft
as a Hispano Buchon? Was this another BoB flyable??
Sorry I’m not listing the s/n’s for everyone but they are kind of ‘under
wraps’ for my book.
Yes, sorry Leonard Mosley is the author. He detailed the event
but no aircraft details were given, likely as it was outside the
scope of his work.
I was surprised to learn after some translating part of the report
that the crash hapened at El Corpero not Tablada as most often
reported.
Thanks for the leads on some of these biplanes, it was very useful.
Thanks for the excellent feedback. He’s looked at this thread and
taken away some good ideas.
Hi, great information here, thanks for clearing up the unknown title!