A well deserved award in my opinion. I’ve met John a few times over the years and he once very kindly gave myself and some friends a private tour of the RNHF and allowed me to sit in the cockpit of the Firefly. I have often thought his valiant attempt to save the Sea Fury by bouncing it along the runway on one wheel trying to get the other gear leg down before having to take it up and bail out was incredibly brave and worthy of more recognition than it got at the time. It could so easily have gone horribly wrong for him. He is also an excellent chap to get chatting to in the bar, many brilliant stories!
Re 9
No, and you can’t ‘polish a turd’ either.
But you can roll in in glitter!:D
Re: my comments in 11, this is from the Fly Navy Heritage Trust website
‘We exist to support the Nation’s Naval Aviation Heritage, by raising money for the RN Historic Flight, for the FAA Museum and for St Bartholomew’s FAA Church’
So are they going to be setting up to operate her themselves as a separate concern or will the RNHF be maintaining and hopefully flying her. This would make more sense as it would save a possble doubling up on resources, hangarage etc. at Yeovilton.
As a side note, if you are visiting Yeovilton take the time to visit St Bartholomews FAA Church. Lots of history including RN and FAA tributes.
Any news on her departure from Hurn?
Who will fly/operate her then? Forgive my ignorance but I thought the Historic trust was the money raising and organisational part of the RNHF. Is this not the case?
I have a bag of mixed feelings here. Terribly sad that those who worked so hard on her have lost their jobs, pleased she at least has a home at Yeovilton and concerned for her future if she can’t be kept airworthy. No criticism of the RNHF but they have limited resources and an incredible amount of work trying to look after what they have already got. I assume though that a plan for the future has been made.
Having more capable jets in the historic flight than in service is both incredible and sad.
Any truth in the story that the smaller calibre rounds are intended to wound more than kill? The idea being, I was once told that 1 man dead = 1 man out of the unit/patrol/skirmish whereas 1 man wounded = 3+ men out of the unit/patrol/skirmish or patrol abandoned etc. due to getting the wounded man back plus using up enemy transport and medical resources. Is this based on fact or just popular myth?
Precisely what they were saying in the documentary I was referring too. Some weapons need to be accurate, some need to spread the shot or projectiles. The Bren was very accurate and although it could be turned/moved around by the operator this required time/effort etc. depending on position and circumstances when the same could be achieved by having a less accurate weapon. It changed the thinking of always trying to produce accurate weapons to actually designing some being less accurate and actually providing an advantage. I found it interesting as I had never heard of this before, it may be cr@p but I could see the logic. I have no experience of firing/operating these things so obviously value the opinions of John Green and others who have first hand experience.
Sorry, typo on my part, I meant bipod. As I said just passing on what I saw and found interesting.
That incident you describe could have been disastrous!! Good job No. 2 was alert. Was there any action taken afterwards?
Hi John, that is pretty much what they said on the documentary, the Bren was very accurate and the spread of shot stayed close together. They said that for covering fire, shoot and advance etc. a wider spread of shot is preferred. The natural spread of an automatic weapon is actually designed in to achieve this (they said). The automatic fire is not to try and hit a bull but cover an area making it difficult for the enemy. This sort of makes sense as weapons like a Bren on it’s tripod may be difficult to move around and natural spread would achieve this without the need for much movement of the weapon.
I am not from a military background and have no knowledge of these things, merely passing on the information from what I watched on the history channel a couple of nights ago. It may be complete BS but I found it interesting and surprising, if there is any truth in what they were saying, after all the aircraft documentaries they put on are usually full of mistakes and false truths.
Do automatic weapons really have inaccuracy designed in?
From a recent documentary I saw then apparently yes. They were talking about and demonstrating WW2 machine guns, Sten, Tommy etc. They were looking at the Bren gun and firing it and the shots are closely grouped. This is apparently a disadvantage for this type of weapon where shot needs to spread to make sure ‘they keep their heads down’ when being fired at. For maximum effect the shot needs to spread. They stated that modern automatic weapons are actually designed with a degree of inaccuracy to get the shot to spread.
It was on the telly so it must be definitely, certainly, absolutely true 🙂
You would think so but I find it amazing that such a great country still clings on to a 200 year old law that was referring to early revolvers and muskets!
[QUOTE=Creaking Door;2164659]How so? I can’t think of any reason that full-auto capability would result in fewer casualties?
Presumably he is referring to the fact that automatic weapons are designed to have a degree of inaccuracy built in to get a spread of shot on the battlefield whereas a rifle or a weapon on single shot is aimed at a specific target and therefore more likely to score a hit.
Was there a particular reason that Bomber Command stayed with green/brown for the Lancaster’s and Halifax’s? Would it have been that as most operations by heavies were at night there was little point in changing?
They shouldn’t have broken both of his arms, some poor sod has to wipe his **** now.