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  • in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode X #2419144
    mack8
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    in reply to: Chinese J-10 versus US F22 raptor : FUNNY video ! #2422585
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    J-10 versus F-22 raptor
    EXTREMELY very funny video :D:D:D

    URL link
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFCt_HKnuQE

    Craziest thing i ever saw aviation wise! :p

    in reply to: Russian radars and ECM/ESM/RWR systems thread #2422974
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    No photo of Yemeni Fulcrums shows them loaded in any way.

    As for Algerian SMTs, I don’t have any information about whether ECM pods were supposed to be included.

    Thanks. We have to keep waiting i guess 🙂 ( i’ve waited actually years before i saw pictures of the yemeni and algerian SMTs :D)

    Well i would guess a potential SMT buyer would acquire these pods aswell , since the SMT doesnt appear to have ( in any version i saw at least) an internal jammer…

    in reply to: Russian radars and ECM/ESM/RWR systems thread #2424414
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    Yes.

    SAP-518 is replacement for L-005S Sorbtsiya-S.
    SAP-14 for never deployed L-001 Smalta-S.

    Both products from KNIRTI.

    CNIRTI offers the Omul pods for the same market, and previously the Gardeniya-F1UE pods (used on first Su-27SK)

    Sadly there is not a wide radar interceptor market for aircraft on Russia, so CKBA Avtomatika still is the only R&D institution developing or at least offering RWR/ESM systems for Su and MiG aircraft.

    So…that meens the Gardenya system was fielded on both internal installation and podded instalation …
    Looks like the Chinese Su-27SK had indeed the Gardeniya system(i thought at first that it was an error, i thought the SKs has the Sorbtsiya , BUT i’ve found a thread about the SKs ECM manual somewhere , gotta look for it again), and then the Su-30MKK had the Sorbtsiya…

    I’ve looked at some pictures , but cant seem to notice any visual difference tho ( betwen SK and MKK ECM pods)

    Oh here’s that topic about the Gardenyia manual…

    http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=37388

    in reply to: MiG-31 Questions #2424448
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    I agree, I’ve never seen chaff/flare dispensers on this aircraft. If someone could point them out, I’d appreciate it.

    Also, does the MiG-31 carry a jammer? Does it even need defensive aids like that? Would they ever be tasked with long range escort missions?

    Looks like its the same situation as whit the IRCMs…The M definetly had an ECM system , there were at least two configurations , the first one suggest its most likely the L-203 Gardenya system ( wingtip antennas), same as on the contemporary Mig-29 9.13…

    Second configuration is shown in Paralay’s drawings , ie wingtip pods , which most likely are the L-005S Sorbtsya pods as on the Su-27…

    It would make sense for the newer multirole versions F/FE/BM to have at least ECM pods given their extended roles…

    Photo of Gardenya Mig-31M…

    in reply to: MiG-31 Questions #2424455
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    Brilliant! Thanks for the help everyone, another little puzzle solved! So that meens that most likely the UV-3A was tested for , or on the Mig-31M…and maby the APP-50 was the initial IRCM system considered for the aircraft…

    ( As a sidenote , how could i have missed that ???:eek:)

    in reply to: MiG-31 Questions #2425074
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    Can is available in view of here this container?
    About system of counteraction onboard MiG-31B or BM I hear for the first time. :confused:

    Well i found this on your site Paralay ( very interesting site BTW), posted by Pavel …it clearly says there the Mig-31 has an APP-50 dispenser…i’m confused too…:confused:

    http://paralay.iboards.ru/viewtopic.php?style=12&f=5&t=595&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

    in reply to: PLAAF; News and Photos volume 13 #2425176
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    that’s not true. FTC-2000 is the export version of JJ-9, which is now in serial production for PLAAF. It’s L-15 that is no where near ready for PLAAF. Until it gets its engine situation sorted out (and who knows how long that will take), JJ-9 is it.

    the engine could be swapped from WP-13F to WP-14 to improve TW ratio. Although, I’m not sure if they will actually do that.

    The Kunlun has 75KN, maby a bit more in the latest version,but that still will be a T/W of less than 1 at normal TO weight…anyway the point of this is that wiki claims absolutely fantesist data for this aircraft, peoples gotta know the truth … :p

    in reply to: PLAAF; News and Photos volume 13 #2425281
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    Wiki got it wrong , they say the loaded weight is about 7.8 t, the engine has 66.7 KN , thats not a T/W ratio of 1.3… none of those performance figures seems real anyway…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guizhou_JL-9

    in reply to: Russian radars and ECM/ESM/RWR systems thread #2425284
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    MSP-418K jammers were exported to Yemen.. No other customers known yet..

    Thank you Flex…dont think there are any photos of yemeni SMTs with ECM pods yet, is it ?:)

    As for customers , maby the algerians were suposed to buy them aswell…but since they scrapped the deal…

    in reply to: Russian radars and ECM/ESM/RWR systems thread #2425291
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    Mack8, your links don’t work (for me at least).

    http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/14/14/3e3e680c-b052-435d-9e0b-9898427338a9.Full.jpg
    http://data3.gallery.ru/albums/gallery/40120-120ac-23646060-m750x740.jpg

    Hmmm…i dont know what to suggest, for me it works in both IE and mozilla and when i click on it it opens in WMP automathically…( i actually also have the clips saved on my computer , but cant upload them here …)

    Here are the links to the respective pages, scroll at the bottom and click on the links there , maby it will work that way …

    http://www.cnirti.ru/catalog-10-18.htm
    http://www.cnirti.ru/catalog-10-3011.htm

    BTW i cant actually see any understandable writing there , except the company logo, i just blindly navigated to find these…my comp displays perfectly in russian on other sites and forums , but not on CNIRTI website ..beats me …:confused:

    in reply to: MiG-31 Questions #2425546
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    Well, it may well be ,aparently the Mig-31M like in your picture did mounted ECM systems on the wingtips ,SPS-201 Gardenya or SPS-171 Sorbtsya( gotta check on that again, it was tested with both), and its possible they might have housed some CHFL dispensers there too …but the M never went into production…

    I dont know maby the russians think Mig-31 is not needed to have passive countermeasures considering the way they are suposed to be used , bomber and cruise misile carriers( and aparently cruise misiles themselves) interceptors …they are not suposed to meet other fighters ,or enemy ground fire, hence no need for dispensers , unlike offcourse the tactical aircraft , Mig-29, Su-27 , Su-25 and previously , Su-17M3/4, Mig-27 , Mig-23MLD etc.

    Its funny for instance they DID exported Mig-25s with said CHFL systems mounted to arab states, and they had prototypes for a domestic version , but never carried on production…i guess if they REALLY wanted to put them on Mig-25s and 31 , they would have done starting 25 years ago …

    Maby the export Mig-31E was suposed to have CHFL systems( just like the export Mig-25PD before it) , and thats what the UV-3A was for ?:confused:

    in reply to: MiG-31 Questions #2425844
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    Thanks for the info Paralay! Looking forward for pics of them in service.:)

    Ok , another question with your permision…where is exactly the chaff and flares dispenser on the Mig-31? Aparently its called UV-3A…( tho some sources say its APP-50)

    Here’s an interesting link from JSC website…

    http://eng.ktrv.ru/about_eng/275/416/434/?PHPSESSID=5c144625488b00ad7c9edc9db58e158e

    Here you cant find some CHFL systems they are marketing , funny tho no mention of UV-3A…

    http://eng.ktrv.ru/production_eng/323/529/

    in reply to: Question. Flares (countermeasures). #2425848
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    “Content edited for unclass media” ? What are they censoring there ?:confused:
    Some sort of active IRCM?

    in reply to: MiG-25 foxbat flare mod #2426095
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    Oh yeah thats one of the question i’ve burned my brains with for a long time!
    After alot of reading and trying to figure out, i think at least concerning the export Mig-25 interceptors, there are TWO versions…

    First is the Export Mig-25P delivered in the 1979-80 timeframe, whit Smerch radar , and able to fire only R-40s…definetly Lybia had them as ilustrated by airliners .com! Funny thing is , they are called Mig-25PDs there! Also Algeria had them too , theres a vid on youtube to prove it…

    Second export version is lets call it Export Mig-25PD , which Lybia and Iraq certainly have …in the case of Iraq, i’m not sure if they are really upgraded MiG-25P as some sources say , or new machines altogether…tho i havent seen yet a Mig-25P in iraqi colours…Now these machines as i can make out , they have SPO-15LE RWR and KDS-155 flare dispensers, and there are mentions of SPS-162 Geran ECM…plus off course the IRST.

    This is what tespilot.ru, and other sources have to say…

    In 1982, one of the MiG-25PDS (reg. #7011) was fitted with ECM equipment to provide individual and collective protection from enemy radar- and IR-homing air-to-air and air-to ground missiles. The equipment comprised the Beryoza-LE radar warning receiver (RWR), Geranium ECM system and KDS-155 flare dispenser. The flight testing was completed in 1983. Later, another aircraft was converted for the same purpose. It was designated MiG-25PDSL (reg. #94). It was equipped with the Beryoza-LM RWR, Gardenia-1FU active ECM system mounted in the external pod, as well as chaff and flare dispenser. Its flight testing commenced in 1985.

    Given that they mention Beryoza-LE RWR, which is from what i know the EXPORT designation for the domestic SPO-15L , it makes sense that this MUST be the export PD…I dont know however , if this version still mounts the Smerch-A2 radar quoted by most sources , or do they have actually a N-005″E” radar … remember this radar is based on the N-003 from Mig-23ML wich WAS exported at that time …besides , the russians had the Mig-31 in the pipeline by then ( respecting their policy of haveing something better at home than the stuff they export) , so it would make sense to have the N-005 radar aswell , but i havent read any confirmation or even hint of that …

    ( funny thing is acig website call these machines-Lybian Mig-25s whit new RWR antennae on intakes and CHFL on wings plus IRST under nose- export Mig-25P,and on the picture caption they say its august 1981! Off course thats nonsese. The oldest confirmed lybian Mig-25 PD pic on the net is dated 1985, which makes perfect sense… )

    Does anyone has more info about this entangled subject of export Mig-25 interceptor versions?

    Thank you 🙂

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