Hi
I often wonder what happens to all the parts that are not allowed by the CAA permits to be used.
Is it sold for museum funds.
cheers
Jerry
Hi Brian,
Many thanks for the reply, Harvey was lost on the 18th, so 12th is presumably a typo, although the runnymede lists the 17th, whilst on a rhubarb to the Caen area, a french site lists the loss as N of Carentan.
Thanks again for the info, Awesome panels by the way….
Cheers
Jerry
Hi
Was it that website or AAW that discussed the sunked AR-196’s in the russian ? lake.
I never heard anymore about them, but the, I suppose if it was a more well known type they would have been recovered.
cheers
Jerry
Hi
Well I think most of the records need sometime to be taken with a pinch of salt, there are many occasions where the Sqn diaries are not exactly right.
One I recall is the recorded non op flight of a lancaster that crashed on dartmoor, one of the recovery crew recalled rolling a full bombload down the hillside, as did a farmer.
And as most now there are many instances of wrong serials in Sqn diaries.
Personally I vote for the guys pilot logbook.
cheers
Jerry
Brewerjerry:
Is this a shortened number, as all the info I have seen gives a 5 digit construction number for curtiss a/c.
Extrapolating on Joe Baugher’s page (http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_serials/1941_5.html) ET574 (41-35928) would indeed be CW 1035, and the construction number 19761.
The last identity he actually quotes is 41-35925 (CW 1032, c/n 19758, ET571).
Hi
So CW 1035 is actually the curtiss works number ?
and is different from the construction number c/n 19761.
right got it now.
cheers
Jerry
Peter,
Yep, it is the Curtiss construction number which ties in with the US serial number which ties in with the RAF serial.
All three of the above have now been known by the RAFM/AHB etc for over a week now. The 1035 was the last bit of evidence we required.
regards
Mark
Hi
Is this a shortened number, as all the info I have seen gives a 5 digit construction number for curtiss a/c.
cheers
Jerry
This video was uploaded today with some more recent footage. Not entirely sure what’s going on though…
Hi
Wonder if it was taken by one the guys in the four vehicles that visited ?
cheers
Jerry
Hi
I do wonder if the discovery had not made the internet..
would the aircraft simply been reduced to scrap and no one would ever have known about it or its pilot ?
At least it gets its moment in time and the pilot’s relatives hopefully finally get an answer to a long standing question.
To those in egypt it might seem odd giving the problems in their country that an old aircraft gets so much response from the western world.
cheers
Jerry
Hi
I do wonder if the discovery had not made the internet..
would the aircraft simply been reduced to scrap and no one would ever have known about it or its pilot ?
At least it gets its moment in time and the pilot’s relatives hopefully finally get an answer to a long standing question.
To those in egypt it might seem odd giving the problems in their country that an old aircraft gets so much response from the western world.
cheers
Jerry
Hi
Presumably this one
cheers
Jerry
27.09.40: Target Parnall Yate: I/ZG 26.
Bf 110C-4, Wnr.2162, U8+FK of 2/ZG 26
Ofw. Hans Tiepelt (F) killed
Uffz. Herbert Brosig (Bf) killed
Both engines set alight in an attack by F/O. M.E.A. Royce in a Hurricane of 504 Sq. (Filton). Exploded at the Stapleton Institution, Fishponds, Bristol at 11.45 hrs. Tiepelt and Brosig are buried in Greenbank Cemetery, Bristol.
Hi
Presumably this one
cheers
Jerry
27.09.40: Target Parnall Yate: I/ZG 26.
Bf 110C-4, Wnr.2162, U8+FK of 2/ZG 26
Ofw. Hans Tiepelt (F) killed
Uffz. Herbert Brosig (Bf) killed
Both engines set alight in an attack by F/O. M.E.A. Royce in a Hurricane of 504 Sq. (Filton). Exploded at the Stapleton Institution, Fishponds, Bristol at 11.45 hrs. Tiepelt and Brosig are buried in Greenbank Cemetery, Bristol.
…There’s an argument that this P-40 is in effect, a “war grave”
Hi
Sorry disagree, it is not a wargrave.
The pilot is not in the aircraft, so it by definition it can not be one.
It only might be technically, if they find the pilots remains under the aircraft, when it is moved.
Most likely he walked off site, so his ‘war’ grave is elsewhere, hopefully one day it is discovered.
To class it as a wargrave, in my opinion, lowers the respect given to the real wargraves, where servicemen still lie.
Cheers
Jerry
…There’s an argument that this P-40 is in effect, a “war grave”
Hi
Sorry disagree, it is not a wargrave.
The pilot is not in the aircraft, so it by definition it can not be one.
It only might be technically, if they find the pilots remains under the aircraft, when it is moved.
Most likely he walked off site, so his ‘war’ grave is elsewhere, hopefully one day it is discovered.
To class it as a wargrave, in my opinion, lowers the respect given to the real wargraves, where servicemen still lie.
Cheers
Jerry
Hi
from the davidstow mmor website which now seems dead ?
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Jerry
01-02-1941
1745hrs
Caudron Goeland F-BAAX landed near a Searchlight Post close to Tregantle Farm. The occupant was Andre’ Edmond Bruist Colin aged 25, he stated that he was a native of Belfort, France. He has been a Sgt Pilot in the French Air Force from 26th August 1939 until 25 August 1940. He left Vichy at 12:30 hours on the 1st February 1941 and landed in Brittany, he took off again for England. Monsieur Colin is being detained at Liskeard Police Station, his aeroplane is being guarded by men of the 11th Battalion Devonshire Regiment.
http://www.rafdavidstowmoor.com/pages/crash_log/crashlog41.html
A friend has asked that I post this..
Could it be P-40K (Raf serial) FR300 of 260 sq., formerly of of 450 Sq. down on Mar.18, 1943 in the desert after engine failure and gear down landing with gear collapsing. (from Air-Britain serials FA100-FZ999)
Hi
An option like any, but it seems to infer a knowledge of the crash conditions…..gear collapsing……. if so this aircraft could have been located at the time ?
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Jerry