Hi Jerry,

That was part of the blurb that I put out when I released the Whirlwind for X-Plane. However It’s not made up. I did come across some info which suggested that that was the case, and that the scrapyard in question was cleared in the late 60s.

All the best,

Steve.

Hi Steve,
Apologies, I had a few long…days and not typing well, So not disputing the info.
I first heard of P6994 and the whirlwind nr Paris, from one guy, I didn’t believe it all until much later, when i found out P6994 went to the USA and saw the photos of typhoon wrecks at chateaufort
cheers
Jerry

P6994

Hi
I would be interested in the details of the letter to flypast.

P6994 did go to the USA, left Liverpool 05 Jun 42, on the waterland, was in convoy ON101, to Boston, arriving 18 Jun 42….

Cutting a long story ( and all my research…) short…..

Yes, Peter Twiss did fly it, I have notes from a conversation I had when I met him and a letter sent from him later to me.

It ended it’s service at USN base Pensecola, Florida ’44.
The US air force were after it, but it appears they didn’t get it, and the engines went into a motor boat and the airframe went to a scrapyard, this is where the trail stops.
It went thro’ various stages of repainting whilst in the US, as reported by witnesses, and it even had spare parts sent out from westlands in ’44.
It was mentioned by one person that it was at grummans for use in XF5F skyrocket and F7F tigercat development, but I have no other confirmation.
Unfortunately i have found no photos yet…But there are some files in american record offices,which may have info, but are to costly and to distant for me to visit.

As to P7048, everytime I hear a story it is different, I have seen a photo of before it went in…
and until I see a photo of when it came out….
for me it is still there.

To me just as interesting is the whirlwind apparently seem in mid ’44 in a hangar somewhere around the paris area, it had been apparently rebuilt by the luftwaffe.
from research the airfield might have been chateaufort, where it is known B-17’s, spitfires and typhoon were found possibly being re built, photos exist of the bombed typhoon/spit/b-17 wrecks in hangars.

cheers
Jerry ( addicted to P6994 and others..)

P.S.
Just did a quick web search google and interestingly this site claims it was still visible in the scrapyard in the 60’s ?.

http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=30045

Or you could save money by just clicking the save button a few times on the pictures in the ebay ad. :diablo:

Hi
One would never dream of doing such things….:diablo:
:rolleyes: :dev2:
likewise I would never use paint shop pro to capture a protected image :rolleyes: :diablo:
thoughts never crossed my mind…..
cheers
Jerry

spam

Hi Mods
just got spam PM from ‘DOUGHNUT’
cheers
jerrry

So, having posted these links, are you saying that this information is neutral?

Hi
Not at all just posted them to show, that there are two governmemnts with two views of the war, hence the need for a ‘ neutral ‘ book one day..
cheers
jerry

As it is often quoted :-

‘there are two sides to a discussion etc…..
the truth is somewhere in between the two’.

Hello Chaps,
Do you have details regarding the last flight of P/O Trevor Jay from No 87 Squadron.
According with some source he was down on October 24th, 1940.

Hi
from memory he was flying in formation near dartmouth, something to do with a tail being chopped off by another hurricane and the a/c crashed.
Sorry I can’t recall anymore, As I no longer have my notes, since i emigrated.
cheers
jerry

from CWWG
JAY, DUDLEY TREVOR
Initials: D T
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Pilot Officer (Pilot)
Regiment/Service: Royal Air Force
Unit Text: 87 Sqdn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 24/10/1940
Service No: 42063
Awards: D F C, Mentioned in Despatches
Additional information: Son of David Sydney and Vera Lucille Jay, of Blackheath, London.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Sec. Z.K. Grave 33.
Cemetery: EXETER HIGHER CEMETERY

The Phantom rumour is fun but explore the realities and it gets far fetched!
For example why would you choose an aircraft type that is large and fairly difficult to transport by ship? Wouldn’t it be easier to air deploy a type like that? Similarily if I were to operate a type from Chilean air force bases I would look at something which is easier to operate and requires less ground support equipment. Certainly Jaguar forces at Coltishall were put on alert to deploy but the reality of where the Falklands was in relation to usable runways soon ended the alert.
Having known and spoken at length to three former servicemen from Leuchars – I have never heard any mention of Phantoms in Chile even as a rumour.

Hi
I must admitt I heard the rumour about phantoms in ’82 when i was on a college course, with some RN , I seem to think it was mentioned around the time of the ‘chile sea king incident’.

The one I always find amusing is the one about the vulcan anti-radar missions, flying all the way to the falklands, then the argie’s turned the radar off, and the missiles couldn’t locate any target, not cricket eh?

cheers
jerry

identity

Hi All,
discussed in the link below and on the old LEMB before the old website crash.

The conclusion was it was Wn 0548 , ex JP548,

http://www.ahs.no/ref_db/lw_loss_public.asp?lossid=117596
References
1) 12 O’Clock High
2) The Typhoon and Tempest Story
3) Flugzeugunfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und sonstigen Dienststellen, 30.07.1944, Lfd.Nr 12

and

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=9704

cheers
Jerry