‘gold a/c’
Hi
there are many a story of a/c with gold,
Apparently a ‘G’ class flying boat took off from RAF mountbatten, plymouth , about ’41 , with gold bars on board and was shot down near the coast of spain.
Story has it the a/c was never found and the gold hasn’t been recovered.
Who knows maybe they will all turn out to be true one day.
Cheers
Jerry
options
Comes down to how authentic you wish to be. IIRC, the new Me262’s use modern turbo jets, not Jumo 004’s. I’d guess they’ve reworked the structure to modern standards and materials, added modern avionics etc. You can be sure the wiring will not be insulated with rubberised cotton etc.
So what compromise is acceptable? Towards the end of the war, the typical service life of a Luftwaffe aircraft was six hours. From Summer 1944, they started building them on that basis. Bit worrying that people are digging up bits wrecks that were barely airworthy before they crashed 60 years ago and putting up again?
Build anything that there is a demand for if you can capture the spirit of the aircraft safely.
Anyone for a Fw200 Condor?
Hi,
How about a JU-390 ..
they could use it to fly from europe to the US air shows !!
cheers
Jerry
two standards ?
Hi,
Not condoning the posting and sale of the photos .
However there have been many e bay WW2 photos of a/c crashes with the pilot / or crew lying alongside, and I have never seen complaints on any boards, only discussion on which a/c it was, who the pilot was , etc.
Even on this board I have seen crash photos discussed, the only difference I can see is that the photos are old, from WW2.
It brings to question the thoughts of morals & aviation history.
If we follow general morals, should a/c, whose crews were killed in the crash, have their a/c recovered for restoration.
Some have said it is disturbing a grave & restoring a coffin.
I wish to make clear I myself have been involved in ‘dig groups’ in the past, so am not casting stones.
Cheers
Jerry
more tears
Hi
Check here for more tears, what a find it would be if it were still around today.
Cheers
Jerry
some types
Hi
Some known Arran crashes
Cheers
Jerry
ANSON N4939 – 28/1/41
ANSON DJ472 – 2/8/42
ALBACORE L7109 – 9/9/42
B-17G 42-97286 – 10/12/44
B-24D 42-41030 – 20/8/43
BEAUFORT L4479 – 30/8/42
C-60 42-56014 – 30/9/43
CHESAPEAKE AL941 – 22/7/43
MARTINET MS757 – 18/1/44
MARTINET MS756 – 17/2/44
SEA OTTER JM880 – 31/8/45
SWORDFISH HS552 – 5/9/43
german name?
Hi,
There was a person of german sounding name shot down in a lysander of torbay by a FW-190.
Cheers
Jerry
ERNST, JACK DOUGLAS
Initials: J D
Nationality: Canadian
Rank: Pilot Officer
Regiment: Royal Canadian Air Force
Unit Text: 276 Sqdn.
Age: 21
Date of Death: 24/08/1942
Service No: J/9755
Additional information: Son of F. W. Eldon Ernst and of Emma Ernst (nee Kuehner).
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: Panel 100.
Cemetery: RUNNYMEDE MEMORIAL
book
Hi,
Thats the one, had a few interesting bits and a few twist in the plot as i remember, more I think it would make a good film.
The other book i recall a bit less aviation tho’ was called ‘dancing dodo’ ?
Something to do with a crashed SS b-26 in kent & aviation archaelogy & rift valley fever, but the memory of it is a bit hazy.
Cheers
Jerry
KG200
Hi,
The novel KG200 came out in the early 80’s.
There are plenty of B-17’s , P-51’s , spit’s around, only problem might be a NF mossie.
But a good story , from what I remember, can’t recall author tho’
Cheers
Jerry
simplistic ?
Hi
Maybe a simplistic view,
But if the airframes are ok to 2012 & the a/c are useful, surely it is sufficiently justifiable to modify them to take a different make engine ?
It’s still 7 year of life.
Cheers
Jerry
pic’s
Hi
nice set of pic’s ,
can’t be many places with two HE-III’s,
any ideas what the radial engine from the sea is, can’t make out the plaque.
cheers
Jerry
some info
Hi,
Just some info,
an extract from the RAF harrowbeer station record diary
12 may 1945, aircraft of 26Sq patrolled the channel islands to ensure the safe arrival of the main force which was to liberate the channel islands, one of the aircraft , Mustang I, AP219, crashed on landing, swinging off the runway and into a blast pen , killing LAC Marsh.
Possibly one of the last deaths as a result of WW2 ( in UK ) ?
Cheers
Jerry
my vote
Hi
My vote would go to the typhoon, as a fighter well over rated , and yes I am a tiffie fan, but the tails fell off, and the only good bit was the engine , which frequently stopped, and many good pilots were lost in tiffies.
It’s main claim to fame was the fact it was fast and could catch a 190, now a 190 I would never claim over rated, and I am not a fan of it, But after all didn’t the RAF develop the tiffie into a 190 copy , ( the tempest ) and then further refine it into a fury.
Just my opinion.
I was told once by a spitfire pilot, that the Mk V was a very nice plane & the IX was nice also, but all those that came after were beasts to fly.
Cheers
Jerry
starkey
Hi Dave,
Correct serial P6974 , always captioned by many as dieppe raid stripes, actually in this case marking for operation Strakey, a dummy/faint invasion in sept ’43.
It is only my personal thoughts but there might have been an OTU whirlwind , I have info on a whirlwind coded BT-Y mentioned earlier in the thread, codes were done by a FAA pilot, so I doubt he copied them down wrong !
I can only trace the BT code to 30 OTU, at present, but this seems to have only flown wellingtons, maybe it was for fighter affiliation excercise.
slightly o/t but a link to p-40’s with BT code, which might help prove the fighter affiliation theme , or is another unit that used the code BT
Linking 2 + 2 together and making maybe 1000, but the P-40 sharkmouth markings might explain the whirlwind with similar markings !!
Cheers
Jerry
tanks
Hi,
Pity they didn’t hang L.R. tanks instead,
There is a report about the whirlwind at the PRO that mentions LR tanks, but it seems that they were never fitted, Can’t find any evidence of any trials either.
Just pulled out my old whirlwind files from the attic, the
PRO report mentions:-
Special Long Range tanks can be fitted which provide duration of seven hours cruising with some sacrifice of maximum speed.
From rough calculations (I did at the time of finding the records), this implied a fuel load of about 390 galls instead of the usual 134 galls , and an all out duration of about just under 5 hours, instead of the usual about 1 & 3/4 hours .
Cheers
Jerry
just a bit more
Hi,
Just to add a bit more to the info from the westland site for discussion
quote
‘ the Whirlwind achieved limited production as a fighter-bomber ‘
A tadge hard to achieve limited production of the fighter bomber : –
The last whirlwinds left the line in late summer 1941
First fighter bombers were converted at Colerne where the bomb racks were fitted, in august 1942.
Most of the conversions were field level at 263Sq or 137sq bases , only those already undergoing repair at westlands were done there.
Cheers
Jerry