Looks like you have your answer Brian although I thought some of the fittings looked American.
Pagen is right – any chance the mods can help? The list us already too long!
Hi CD
The plate seems to have originated from a lanc that was scrapped – most likely at the wars end. Maybe contacting the EAFM is the thing to do…!
Thanks for looking
Elliott
There is a list of Mod Numbers in ‘The Lancaster Manual’ published by the RAFM (basically AP2062A & AP2026C) that goes from 397 to 805 (approved up to 31st January 1943) but none of the mods you listed are included.
There are gaps; for example 434 and 436 are there but nothing is listed for 435.
Sorry can’t help other than that; where did you get these mod numbers from?
Thanks a lot Al and also Smirky
do any of the Lanc experts on the forum know?
Hi HMS Vulture – I think the Swordfish had a similar arrangement.
It’s actually a balance weight ,inside the casing is full of steel shot &weighs about 1lb.
Unique to the Firefly.
Thanks folks. I hasten to add this not a special area of interest!
Any idea which group was behind it? Any pictures of the recovery?
Cheers
Elliott
Hi Pagen
Those are parts of Whitley N1498. Hope that helps
By the way, does anyone know the ID of the Whitley wreckage? Elliott?
It’s not a bit of an old Elsan loo seat is it?
Not bad for someone who’s not an expert Tony 😉 If you aren’t i’m not sure who is.
I have a Firefly grip which I assume is fairly late – it has the standard wartime rubberised covering on the handle. Never seen that style of covering present on 424 before and just wonded if it had been ‘restored’. Incidently restoring these grips seems to be extremely difficult to get right – if I had a pound for every bad restoration i’ve seen I probably could have bought one of these!
Elliott, 424 is basically a later grip typically fitted to late Hurri/Tempest/Typhoon grip with the later type of covering applied to later aircraft like the Tempest and Meteor….the Hendon Tyffe has the same covering…the camera button is typical Hawker. 424 was a bargain. That said a Tyffie & Tempest would have had a electro pneumatic not a pneumatic like 424 has. On reflection (without checking the grip casting for an AH number and the gun button area to ensure the brass pipes do actually go to the button and that that the button has not been refitted) I would think it late Hurri. I would estimate its value around £1500-2000 subject to checking some issues with the grip. The other grip would not get house room….there are much better replica grips out there!!!
Looking at the catalogue, I am not sure 397 & 424 sold as they are marked £0. I think the vendor of 444 is off celebrating!!
Thanks XF940
I wonder who the vendor was? It would be nice to know. One of those grips (Hurricane lot 424) looked familiar. The coating on the grip handle just looked very odd to me. Had it been offered on a website before?
Yes Andy – a fair price for a BoB grip, but it plainly wasn’t!
Cheers
Lot 444 sold for £1700 + commission + internet bidding fees of 3% + VAT!!
397 and 424 went for £740 each + commission (& VAT) to a room or phone bidder.
The Pucara panel sold for £1200 + commission
Thanks Andy and Tony.
Hi Ian
I went through my Master pilot notes – they describe such a lever to operate a cine camera when making attacks – looks like you ID’d it Ian. Of course it could have been fitted to other types…
Cheers
I’d love to know how much the grips go for as well. Have you identified yours? I could send you a higher res Master picture if you want.
I think one of my faves is the Rapide rudder – fantastic!
Not sure who the vendors are – pity as it’s one of the most important things when buying this kind of stuff.
Some very desirable items there. The Pucara instrument panel is very interesting.
Not convinced they’ll find anything big but surely worth watching. I love how the local kids knew all the guard dogs by name!
That’s good Martin – is it Stirling related by any chance?