No comments Tim!
It’s one of those “I’ve seen one of those things” issues with me. I’ve checked C47, Hudson, and Ventura manuals and nope not those and I’m sure we’ve got one somewhere in our stores as the minute I saw the pic the old bells rung. More digging is called for.
Bro Cuskelly are you out there? Might be something you know over the other side of the ditch like B24/25?
Can you give the lineal measurement length and height as per the posted photo so I can confirm a theory?
cheers
That would be a great help can you pm me so we can get in contact 682al.
If you’re interested there are shots of the turret on
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/markansell/bpa/preserved.html
cheers
That’s my problem I don’t have a p/n just a picture in the manual. The B&P manual that I have is singularly unhelpful in thta it doesn’t cite the 5c/ numbers of items but just uses terms like “fuse box”. I’ve visually identified other parts by way of a catalogue of 5c/ itmes but this one doesn’t tally with anything there.
The Ashburton Air Museum out here in NZ has a Harrier whose serial I don’t know but it was sourced from gjdservices….
Best you come and visit Paul Davidson and the boys with ZK-SAF
http://www.classicfighters.co.nz/aircraft/argosy.htm
sorry another case of us Kiwis doing a better job than the poms on their own types…oops who said that 🙂
Hi Mikey,
Good lord someone else who we’ve treated to the Ferrymead treatment yep the Valley Inn still does the business!
The C47 is plodding on. The guys working on her have finished reglazing the entire aircraft, they’ve done the nose radome bay, spring cleaned the cockpit, and are now starting on the engines.
On the Viscount we’ve just finished the strip, beadblast, and repaint of all the undercarriage bays and centre section tank bays, and the tail bays. Now we’ve got to put the undercarriages back in and then the tails and centre sections on.
As if we’re not up against it with that we’ve just erected a new workshop to be the woodworking shop for the mossie. Hopefully this weekend we’ll get the last of the roof on.
The Hudson continues. I’m deep in turret mode at the moment (when not Viscount or workshop working) and a set of fairly recent pix are on Mark Ansell’s site
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/markansell/bpa/preserved.html
cheers
I’m sorry but your comments that MoTat is short of money are rubbish. They have a rating act over the greater AKL area which gives them an income of the order, I am told, of approx NZ$3M per annum.
I think it will be old problem of once there’s money like that around suddenly there huge staff structures appear with all sorts of people on huge salaries soaking up the $ and making the sorts of half ****d decisions that lead to things like the poor Hudson being outside.
Suddenly the Mossie will be the focus and because that spins so many peoples’ wheels anything and everything else will get pushed aside. A travesty of all Barry East’s hard labours, sorry mate don’t spin in the grave!
Paul,
I’d be very keen to see any pix you had of the instrument panel in the sundie as we’re researching the fitout to go in NZ4112 at Ferrymead, and a while back I got pix of the examples around the world bar this one so it would be most useful if you had such (or any other reader who can supply shot of an RNZAF panel fully fitted out as they are markedly different from the other survivors).
Not sure if I’m wrong but I think there’s a bit of confusion here about where the crashed/recovered Herks were.
The ones I think you’re thinking of were at a remote working site called Dome Charlie. One went in to recover a field party and (if I’ve got them the right way round) had a Jato bottle go awol and chop off the wing after taking the prop off the port inboard. A second herk arrived to pick up the party and the crew of the first but on takeoff he dug in a nose ski and that was him stuffed as well. A third Herk finally got everyone out.
A year or two later (not sure how many to be exact) the second was got out as its damage wasn’t that major.
The first stayed there for many years (ten or so I recall) until inflation costs made its recovery cheaper than building a new one. A whole wing was taken down and a change done and the fuselage sides patched up (the severed prop had gone through it) and she was got out to Mactown for some more work before coming to AirNZ Harewood for full workover. I think she was probably the one that in later life was named the “ole grey mare” with a suitable cartoon fwd the crew entry door.
hope that clarifies it, as I say some of the fine detail may be a bit awry but the guts are right.
I’m currently working on a B&P type C for my Lockheed Hudson NZ2035 at Ferrymead. Details can be seen on
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/markansell/bpa/turrets/nz2035.html
I likewise have sourced indidental gneral items from eBay, Queensland Air Museum, the B24 Liberator group of Werribee, and the Lincolnshire guys, along with manual bits from the York Air Gunners group and the B&P team.
However I’m desperate for specific Type C ityems like interruptor gear, pump, ram, seat etc…would welcome any leads!
Queensland Air Museum has a rebuild underway (serial lost on me as it doesn’t start with NZ!) under Dave Bussey’s house. I saw the fuselage in late June and its well advanced.
Perhaps Ron Cuskelly will chip in with some other dingo ones.
Whilst I would never claim to be fixated with the war in the air in europe I have had a copy of the “Mighty Eighth” on my bookshelf for many years if for no other reason than the sheer impressiveness of the cold sound objective editorialship of the author. In this age of emotive wrtiing the loss of of a man of such objective scholarship is very sad.
As we in New Zealand say a tall totara ( a mightly tree of the forest ) has fallen.
Should have looked in that other directory!
Three attached photos show the caravan in the Catlins, the Hudson being manoeuvered in Dunedin, and the RNZAF crew uplifting NZ2035 from the Holdaway farm for transport to ferrymead (all due credit to the original sources of course!)
You really have started me off now Dave.
You’re right about Edwards as he bought a batch (six if the memory is again on track) and on sold them. One whose serial I don’t know became the property of my uncle Bert Crouch of Blenheim and (horror of horrors shame of shames in the family) Bert eventually made a horse float out of the main cabin. (Bert ran an engineering business in Blenheim). Holdaways came from Edwards as well.
I once have contact with a family near Kaiapoi who had bought a Hudson from Wigram but by the time I found them they’d long since sent it to the scrapyard. I traced them by accident following up names in the phone book when I was trying to trace the F4U that was disposed of from Wigram, same name, same airbase different aircraft.
I also one day met a lttle old lady from Dunedin and her husband had made the family a caravan from one and a few years ago we located it parked under a tree down south in the Catlins. I’ve a photo somewhere of it.
I’ve also seen an article about an old truck driver from Dunedin and one of the photos shows a Hudson being inched into a suburban property and I’ve often wondered if it’s the caravan one.
A lot of this was covered in the article on the RNZAF use of the Hudson in the Aviation Historical Society Journal some years ago, try your local library or perhaps AHSNZ do back orders.