I feel what made him so special was his honest love and passion for music and his wish to be bring new things to his listeners,This made him almost unique,I’d only rate Bob Harris in the same breathe as John.
You always felt you knew him almost as a friend,I found him a funny nice person to listen to,And a great narrator on his TV shows.
His loss is huge in my view we are in a day and age where every DJ plays the same songs over and over and playing something new is taken as too risky.
Its my hope we can see his kind of DJ again but i doubt it.
RIP John Peel,My respects are with his friends and family we are all thinking of you.
RIP John Peel,You made many a evening go better with you radio shows,A nice man and great DJ your be sorely missed.
As I understand it, the majority of the Pentagon building is underground, so it wouldn’t surprise me if pretty much all of the wreckage continued into the void below as the structure yielded.
With a conventional building you’d expect a spread of wreckage as it spread out upon hitting the ground.
I tend to agree with you there Robbo,Theres nothing to prove anything but a Airliner hit the Pentagon.
If you hit any re-enforced building with several floors under the ground its lightly very little of the Aircraft would survive on the surface.
As to the Moon landings its my firm belief they were real but they were not willing to risk having no footage of the landing to show people and the soviets so they staged the landing in a Studio sadly this has in the future caused people do doubt landings ever happened.
I’ll think you’ll find that the vast majority of people on this forum, by virtue of some or a lot of knowledge, realise that a Concorde WON’T ever fly again and we are over it……it’s the misguided 20,000 that signed that petition that need to get over it…. 😉
Tend to agree but theres no harm in dreaming.
That’s what I was afraid of, not just the loss of specific individual aircraft, but the extinction of a whole generation of aircraft. Add to that the fact that manned fighter aircraft are becoming more rare all the time (just look how the numbers keep decreasing for the F-22 and Eurofighter), and you have to wonder how long is it before drone aircraft take on these duties. Will this generation be the last to see operational manned fighters?
I just cannot see my children growing up to fly F-104s or A-4s, in the way we fly Mustangs, Spits, and Sea Furies. Are we truly the final generation of warbird pilots? How many WW2 types do you suppose will be flying in the year 2100?
I have been thinking the same way for a long time and and have made my views known on this before.
The Uk forces will be retiring the Jaguar,Seaharrier,and Tornado within the next few years and these types will not be seen on the Airshow curcuit again.
So in a few years we will lose a complete generation of Aircraft,Top that with the fact we already have very little flying from the 60s onwards due to CAA restrictions,We are going to lose a big part of our history here.
As Steve says the days of Unmanned fighters are coming soon its going to be difficult for the next generation of kids to understand the romance of flying with so many inportant types no longer flying and new types not giving them the chance to be a pilot or dream of being a pilot,Its going to be a big void.
I honestly can not see that many World war 2 Aircraft flying by 2100 i guess maybe one or two Spitfires and P-51s will still be flying if we are lucky,But the rest will be retired or sadly long gone we should enjoy what we have got and try and leave as much as we can for the next generation,Aircraft are ment to fly and not be caged in musuems to gather dust.
Hi,
Okay maybe these modern jets are outside the scope of most enthusiasts to keep in the air, but what is to stop the various governments/air forces from keeping these flying? They would have the know how to keep them flying. I’m sure BA and Air France could get together to keep at least one concorde airworthy.
Doesn’t the US Air Force operate a number of vinatge jets and use them to promote the USAF?
Alex
Its my honest view that the French wanted to ground her no matter what and nothing was going to change that.
Between Airbus and AirFrance they were able to force BA and our weak government in to ground her.
I would love to see her fly again but can’t see it happening but its still worth fighting for the chance.
This is fantastic Well done all i can’t what to see her at TFCs stable in Duxford or even better in the Air.
Talking of cars, I hear Ford are making a car using recycled parts. Word is they’re calling it the Ford Pubic, it’ll be made out of old coarse ‘airs…
I’ll get me coat.
I guess you could Hair cut it instead of tee-cut it then 😀
Well that’s up the show organisers but we’ll certainly see it at Kemble! From Glen:
The Blue Diamond will be available for airshows during 2005 and demand is expected to be high in it’s debut season. Couple this together with Delta Jets’ other Hunter the “Black Arrow” (WV318, G-FFOX) and the “Yellowjack” Gnat, organisers will be able to have a unique formation of classic early british aerobatic display teams.
For more information on the availablity of these aircraft for 2005 contact Glen Moreman at Delta Jets on 01285 771577.
I can not wait to see her she looks lovely,I have always wanted to see a Hunter in Blue Diamond scheme because in my view a Hunter looks even more elegant in these colours.
Well done to all involved she is a is a masterpiece.
Such advertising works on two levels First is the Airshow going public who get to see her get free cans of the stuff etc, then there is the onlookers the general public not attending airshows
I have often thought that the its the people who see her flying to and from
Airshows that the advertising can have a greater effect on,They here a noise look up see Foxy Lady in red Bull colours think Red Bull gives you wings probably don’t have a clue what Aircraft they have just seen but be sure they know is Red Bull written on it.
This is Peter Vacher whose aircraft you have been discussing. Thank you all for your kind comments.
Just to clear up the discussion regarding the spinner. As we all know, the Hurricane was intially fitted with a Watts 2-bladed prop with a small pointed spinner. This was followed by a De Havilland 2-position prop, followed shortly thereafter with a De Hsavilland costant speed ‘bracket’ prop, both of which had the shorter but rather pointed spinner. About March 1940 the Rotol RX5/2 was introduced on the Hurricane with the rather longer but stubby looking spinner. Subsequently the RS5 superceded the RX5 but the spinner remained the same. All were fitted to the Hurricane I, so the spinner you see on R4118 is exactly correct for the period of the Battle of Britain. What was not shown on Hawker Restorations web site was the badge which fits on the front of the spinner, which is now on in its correct black and pale blue colours.
This aircraft is ACTUALLY the original R4118 which carried the 605 Squadron markings of UP-W during the Battle. It is itself, and not painted to represent some other aircraft. With 49 sorties from Croydon and 5 kills during the Battle, I am told it will be the most historic aircraft flying from WWII.
We look forward to displaying R4118 during 2005.
I personally will feel so proud to see a Fighter that flew from just up the road from where i live now take to the air again.
I hope sometime she will return to Croydon and maybe do the same as the BBMF do and fly over the memorial thats on the old Airport site.
The point I was making near the start of this thread was the way it was painted. The B25 etc shown had a Red Bull badge on the nose like normal nose art. There are many Stearmans, JPs even Hunters flying in various schemes, take your pick. The Vixen has the entire airframe covered advertising. It is the only flying example in the world. Presumably some here would accept the BBMF Lanc covered in eg. adverts for McDonalds if the MOD decided decided to get the flight sponsored. Would you enjoy taking photos of it anymore, or shut your eyes and remember what it used to be?
mmitch.
I see where your coming from and i feel i should say if it was the only way to see a Lancaster fly then i would have to put up and shut up,To be honest if it has the Lanc i would find anything but a small logo such as Brietling Fighters had as disrespectful,The thing is although the Vixen is a inportant part of British history its not a Aircraft which flew to save our country like the Lanc,Spit and Hurricane did and to put any logo on Types that so many people died fighting for us in would just be a crime.
Personally, I’d like to see a formation of the Vixen it its currently non-PC scheme, Miss Demeanour and the Swiss Graffitti Hunter!
That’d p!ss off a few people! :))
I like that idea i personally don’t mind the Red Bull colours and we should respect the fact we can only see a Vixen fly because of Red Bull.
Lets be honest she is a great Aircraft and its a pleasure to see her at any Airshow and to that fact the colour does not matter,It does not take away from history value because theres plenty of photo’s and some static Airframes left to show you what they were like in service.
Now to Miss Demeanour is she just Beautiful or what?
Does Gazza Numan still fly?? Been years since I’ve seen him at a show – had heard he had given up following the loss of close friend??
bring back the SEAC display team with Harvards, “zero” and C45 – hilarious commentary and ricochet (correct spelling!?) gun sound effects.
I read somewhere that the loss of ‘Hoof’ Proudfoot hit him hard. ‘Hoof’ taught Gary a lot and they were close friends i understand.
Don’t forget his brother was regular pilot of the Blemhiem until the unfortunate accident he had with her last year.
Shall I call Bill Greenwood and see if he’d let him have a go at TE308? Bill’s been advertising instructional time in the Spit around here for over a year now…someone send the poof (um, Eddie) this way and we’ll see what happens…
M
What a good idea i would expect Eddie would love the chance and with the hours he would become a very good Spit pilot,His sexuallity certainly should not be a issue and does not have anything to do with his dreams to fly a Spitfire.
Good luck to him i say and i would say the potential for a new pilot on the scene in a few years has to be a good thing.