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January 8, 2011 at 3:21 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2328566

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I see your point and you make a fare assessment. so you are saying that the J-20 is in a more advance stage than the Pakfa..

More advanced stage of what? Making jagged edges of wheel bay doors? Taxiing? May be, flight testing?

January 8, 2011 at 3:59 am in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2328817

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I don’t see any door/panel edges perpendicular to center line…

Are you absolutely sure? Give you a link to some of PAV-2 walkaround? Let’s start with weapon bay area, OK? As one who used original factory drawings and hundreds of photos to make scale drawings of her I’d say I know this bird a little bit.

or shall I say it’s just a prototype to get away…? as ppl suggested for PAKFA?:D

You should better just stop – otherwise you will say tomorrow that X-35s with her non-LO-kosher panel lines was also just a prototype to go away…

January 8, 2011 at 2:47 am in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2328841

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i know they are sexy but… you mean hexagonal right?

Nice that you priced my joke. In an era of spell-checkers it’s harder and harder to make grammatical mistakes.

all line’s are parallel to current wave lobe don’t they?

Even those that are perpendicular? Don’t think so.

January 8, 2011 at 2:36 am in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2328854

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It IS pretty hard to make toothed doors actually, especially aerodynamically.

That’s true. Delivering specific tolerances of hatch and weapon bay gaps is a serious big problem.

Early test flights of YF-23 got at least one of the big toothed doors bend or torn then they have to increase the number (thus decrease the size) of the tooth.

That never was in real life.

January 8, 2011 at 2:19 am in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2328945

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There you go mate, very first prototype of YF-23 as you requested:cool:

This is very second prototype, PAV-2. So, should I look at these lovely sexagonal APU and engine bay vent inlets, exhaust or these perfectly straight panel lines perpendicular to aircraft CL? Or should I post some photos from other LO engineer nightmare?

January 8, 2011 at 2:04 am in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2328950

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what is the point you are trying to make by bringing more airplanes in?

My point is plain simple – you are trying to judge level of specific RCS reduction measures on serial PAK FA (which you never saw), by its prototype. All prototypes I listed were never intended for live RCS tests and had zillion exposed panel lines aligned in a way that would bring LO engineer to heart attack.

January 8, 2011 at 12:07 am in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2329091

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here you go sexy

oh well, and what about YF-23A? X-32A/B? X-35A/B/C, these kinda prototypes of LO aircrafts?

January 7, 2011 at 11:06 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2329180

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while the pakfa puts a stronger emphasis on flankerism.

be so kind, find me many sawtooth panel lines on either YF-23A or YF-22A

January 7, 2011 at 7:58 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2329335

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that girl who is in high heel boots… for example.

that one? 🙂
(c) fath

January 7, 2011 at 8:06 am in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2330465

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Ok,

prob got what.
CIA, NSA, KGB, GuoAn, Naval Intel, AF Intel, Janes, DTI etc etc all worked up and lurking here tonight now.

No-no, SVR and GRU from our side. KGB went to daisies in 1991.

January 7, 2011 at 7:22 am in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2330604

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i.e., thank you for sharing news. It was sleepless night here in Moscow. Waiting!

December 24, 2010 at 12:57 pm in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode XV #2341282

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actually, they are at the SecretProjects since June…
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9717.msg96714.html#msg96714

September 11, 2010 at 10:56 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 14 #2407047

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India, Russia to ink Gen-5 fighter pact

seems I’ve heard the same before…about dozen times

September 11, 2010 at 1:35 am in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 14 #2407240

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Hmm… Perhaps it depends on the fiber. This particular fiber is described as having “high electrical conductivity”:

http://www.tohotenax-eu.com/en/products/whats-carbon-fiber.html

carbon nanostructures-based RAMs are extensively being studied both here in Russia and in US
http://www.ioffe.ru/journals/jtf/2010/02/p83-87.pdf

attached crop is for reference (and it’s not centimeters but inches)

September 10, 2010 at 12:44 pm in reply to: PAK-FA Saga Episode 14 #2407865

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Thx for the input Flateric.
Are this the same that’s seen on the “51” stabs and upper wing area?

and now forward weapon bay doors, too

Are there any news regarding the next T-50 prototype.

still being built. know no details about it’s flight test program specific tasks

Do you know which part of the serie prod Su-35S fuselage will be covered in this RAM paint?

what do you mean talking of ‘this RAM paint’? and, logically, why there should be specific areas, *not* covered with RAM paint? AFAIK, high-temperature RAM problems solved decades ago at both sides of the Atlantic – if you mean engine nacelles
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