Old Buckenham Bede?
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Pim, thanks for the lead, but I can not find a match with any airframe on my database, sorry, but I would be interested to see a photo of your aircraft and to learn more about it, PM me, please.
Moggy C, thanks for the lead, which leads me to my next question.
Does anyone have a photo or any information on the Old Buckenham Bede?
Thanks also to all who have helped with this thread so far.
Thats all?
Honest Rob, that’s all you miss about Leicestershire?!!!!
Hi All
The current 747 is the ex Olympic SX-OAD, The cockpit is stripped of main panels, but they are all held in safe store. The seats and trim is all pressent.
The upper deck is prety complete minus seats and carpet. The spiral staircase had been partialy re-worked but is usable. The main deck has been stripped of all interior panels, and an abortive start was made at converting it into a conference center, with most work having been carried out in the rear section, where a start was made on building a theatre, this is probably 40% complete. All of the original interior panels are there and could be refitted. I dont know about seats though.
Externaly, she is complete except for powerplants. I have a load of recent photo’s of the interior if anyone is interested, just PM me an E-mail address.
There has been some talk of her coming down to the main museum site, and the interior beeing tidied up for 2008, I belive she needs a couple of main wheels changing first, but could become the center of the museum with a shop etc, if we ever get the chance.
Re the G-ASDA colours, Asda hold a charity open day for there staff at the airfield each year, and the port side only was covered in masive stickers, she has not been re-painted, and the reg G-ASDA is of course fictisious.
Where are they now?
Other information that has come my way via Chumpy (original source, no less than good old uncle Ken and one of his wonderfull books) see this thread 10th Nov, lists this aircraft as under construction by GA Ball in Chetwood, later sold incomplete to J.P. Turner of Ascot.
I have now identified 30 kits imported to the UK, one presumably complete airframe imported from Germany, and one US registered example imported as a complete airframe, so 32 in total (so far).
The big question is, where are they all now? I know two went onto the Irish register, two or three were exported to the USA and one to Austria, we have one and the Science Museum has another, come on guys there must be others out there someware, check your garages and garden sheds!
G-BALL
Hi “I GAREY”
My reaserch so far has indeed come up with a BD-5 registered as G-BALL, However I have it shown as being registered to a G.A. Ball of Chetwood, then sold incomplete to a J.P. Turner of Ascot.
Maybe your friend did register the kit, and sold iton before going back to the USA? The plot thickens!
Thanks for the information, it all helps to put together the jigsaw.
Best wishes,
Ritch Blood.
Thanks Chumpy.
Hi Chumpy
PM sent. thanks.
And many t hanks to the others who have replied, as always,it is much appriciated.
Ritch
Great idea.
Peter
I totaly agree, but can we have a HEATER in there as well!!
Denis,
No one is knocking you guys, but please, let the rest of us have a couple of seconds of fame for once. After all, once your ship has flown the nest, the rest of us will still be sitting there on the ground, all alone with no one to love us!!!
Thanks!
Thanks Lindys Lad, and anyone else who has kind words for us.
It’s a pity you didn’t have more time John, as there is much more to see. We couldn’t open several cockpit’s or aircraft due to the high wind and sporadic rain, but your group did arrive with some sunshine!
As you know, we, like many others feel a little overshadowed by the Vulcan at the moment, but we keep plugging on.
Someone recently had a thread about what aircraft restoration meant to various people, and to me, it is sharing, not only our aircraft, but hopefully, some of our enthusiasm.
Both Max and myself have had the privilege of working with, and being able to call a friend, one of the most amazing men in aircraft preservation, Nev Martin. He took us under his wing, has shown endless generosity, and encouraged us when we felt beaten. He is 80 next week, but his energy puts us to shame.
I would also like to make a special mention of David Walton, who allows us to play in his back yard! the Lightning Preservation Group, who’s achievements I put above those of the V***** (sorry!) but they are an amazing bunch of guy’s, who I find particularly inspirational. They never cut corners, are a safe and careful group, but against the odds they make it happen, and I would encourage everyone who visits the tin triangle to take a look at what they are up to in the tree’s! The Canberra group, Cold war Jets, Beach restorations, the Buccaneer lads all of them individual but achieving miracles.
And our own bunch of renegades! Phoenix Aviation, I have already mentioned Nev, but in Malc, Roy, Vic, Tony the Bob’s, young Thomas, and Liam who come over from Ireland several times a year just for the fun of it, good friend’s and people I respect. The laughter over a cup of tea and a bit of cake is worth all the misery of the rain wind and cold.
Most of what people feel when they visit us at Bruntingthorpe is the spirit of what we are all trying to achieve, we are successful with bringing on youngsters, I believe because we don’t look down on them, we let them have a go, and put them right when and only when we need to.
Thanks again for the kind words, and if I haven’t mentioned anyone, sorry, a senior moment!! but you are all brilliant.
One last thought, Sunday is the official museum opening day, and most of us go down on a Saturday, so if you want to meet or see anything in particular, drop us a line and we will try and sort something out.
Ritch and Max.
A sad incident.
Hi Rob
It is a very sad incident, but, thankfully there were no serious injuries. Most of us who are based at Bruntingthorpe know the pilot / owner of this aircraft well, and he is a very experienced and diligent man, who has flown most of us in this aircraft at one time or another. The aircraft can be replaced, but thankfully we still have our friend, that is all that really matters.
The aircraft has always been treated with piles of TLC, and had only just returned to the field from it’s annual inspection, so was in very good condition.
I agree, but also!
We are based at Bruntingthorpe, and as far as we are aware the situation is as cypherus summed it up in his last posting.
I will also add that we understand a total of 8 hours flying will be required before issue of a permit to fly. And that although she may spend time away durring the airshow season’s, 558 will overwinter at Bruntingthorpe.
And lastly, there is the sniff in the air of a planned open day (airshow?) in the spring next year at Bruntingthorpe. And who can guess who will be the star turn?! I think the VOC, owe Dave Walton that much at least. Indeed I think all Vulcan enthusiasts owe Dave and the rest of the Walton familly a masive thank you, for standing by this project from the very beginning, and making it all possible.
Re Bruntingthorpe Hangar.
Re the Bruntingthorpe hangar, the problem is that during the summer the aircraft are required for our various open days, if they go inside for any length of time it could have a serious efect on our shows. Anyway, the Vulcan hangar will most probably be out of bounds do to them having there stores etc set up in there.
Canopus and Bruntingthorpe.
There is one very big reason why another large project will not be possible at Bruntingthorpe for the foreseeable future.
We have a ruddy great Vulcan sitting in the only hangar, and she needs that roof over her head for some winters to come!
Canopus, is in great shape, considering she has lived outside since she arrived at Bruntingthorpe, and is a credit to her volunteer crew, but to fly again, that’s another matter.
I don’t think Bruntingthorpe will ever be the centre of such excitement ever again, it’s someone else’s turn to be centre stage, but, how many airfield operators / owners will be as generous as The Walton family have been to 558.
Bruntingthorpe Bucc’s
Why not arrange to bring him to Bruntingthorpe for a full on Buccaneer expirience. The guys have 3 of them there and will normaly bend over backwards to give a fellow enthusiast a special day. PM me if you are interested, and I would be glad to put you in touch with them.
The word around Bruntingthorpe today (Saturday) is as follows, there will be some sort of official “handing over to the crew” early next week (another expensive publicity stunt?!) she will then be out later in the week for runs and taxi trials observed by a CAA test pilot. At some point shortly thereafter she will fly.
Now, I am told by a respected member of the VTS team, that the CAA have stipulated that no more than 250 people are to be present at the first flight, more than this and they will stop the flight, as it would be considered legaly to be an airshow, which requires a special licence, insurance etc.
Also, the local police will activly keep the roads around the site clear of parked cars and move on anyone trying to see what is going on from the road, they will also stop people from trying to get around the perimeter of the site.
I was also told that after this one flight, she will be going back into the hangar and that will be it till next spring! It seems that major sponsors for next year won’t comit cash till she flys, and they need more funds to carry on flying. A catch 22 situation it would seem.
This information has come from a well known VTS team member, so I assume it is true, but dont shoot me it it’s wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
Wing struts
Hi
Try Richard Parr at retro avaiation, I belive he has reduced some 330’s to produce!