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May 26, 2005 at 4:31 pm in reply to: Duxfords Varsity #1374475

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Im not trying to be rude but Duxford is running out of space fast. as ive said before why not try to get a team together to do something about it. i feel it would be an enjoyable experience.

I do enough to keep historic aeroplanes flying as it is, I’ll be buggered if I’m going to do it in my spare time as well. To be quite honest, after working on old, historic and modern aeroplanes for nearly 30 years, there’s nothing enjoyable about it any more, it’s just a job. A means to an end.

May 25, 2005 at 10:45 pm in reply to: Duxford Beaufighter #1375858

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Anyone know anything about this aircraft, such as when it is set to fly again, and how far its restoration is at the moment? :p

Look into my eyes,
look into my eyes,
not around the eyes but into the eyes,
Thats it , you’re under,

Its finnished, its been flying for the last two years and you’d just not realised… 3-2-1 Now wake up… :diablo:

No seriously, it’s still ongoing….

May 24, 2005 at 11:12 pm in reply to: Peter Vacher's Hurricane #1378065

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Why were the glare shields removed?

Cos it don’t fly at night any more – :diablo:

May 23, 2005 at 11:06 pm in reply to: La Ferte Alais 2005, 2 quick videos #1380404

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BTW great footage, but couldn’t open the spit video?

Why bother, its only another Spitfire……

May 23, 2005 at 10:02 pm in reply to: Latest 262 Repro Roll-out #1380448

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Want one……..NOW!!!!!

You gotta get out more….

May 21, 2005 at 9:59 pm in reply to: Cosford Photos For Those Unfamiliar… #1383580

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True, i’d love to see a large building with just three aircraft in it – Vulcan, Victor and Valiant, imagine that, all facing towards the centre, set back far enough so you can see the aircraft well, Valiant in early all-white paint, Vulcan in camouflage with white undersides, and Victor in gulf war colours, the three V bombers in the colours they wore during the three stages of their lives…. ahhh i can dream

Dream on – but it would be nice to see..

May 19, 2005 at 8:38 pm in reply to: Rolls Royce training publication: Merlin #1387572

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Bump!

Any ideas please folks?

Have sent you a PM..

May 19, 2005 at 10:35 am in reply to: La Ferte Alais 2005, 2 quick videos #1388521

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avro’s finest and digby, could u please tell us on what basis u assume the pilot lost control of the plane? I explained my reasons, u guys didnt. I agree on the fact that he prolly made a mistake and maybe he’s not really easy on the controls, but he didnt lose control of the plane. There’s a HUGE difference between making a wrong aerobatic figure and losing control of a plane.

Alex

As the aeroplane goes over the top of the loop, you can see there is only just enough speed, as he rolls out you see the nose fall away slightly as he enters the second roll. It is while in this second roll the aeroplane departs while inverted, i admit he recovered well, either by skill or luck I don’t know I never will. While that aeroplane was inverted it was out of control and the only thing that saved it was hight and a departure avenue. You say he maybe not be at ease with the controls, if thats the case he shouldn’t be displaying the aeroplane in the first place. And you’re right there is a HUGE difference between making a wrong aerobatic manoeuvre and loosing control of the aeroplane, if that second roll was planned, he wasn’t high enough, if it wasn’t planned, why did he do it. When you fly these aeroplanes, a set sequence is planned and you stick to it, you don’t go adding a roll here or a loop there. You stick to the routine. If that whole routine was deliberate and planned, I suggest he goes back and works out another one. I have spoken to a lot of people who saw that display item, and didn’t like what they saw.

If you don’t agree with what I’ve put, so be it. I just don’t want to see another smoking hole.

May 18, 2005 at 8:34 pm in reply to: La Ferte Alais 2005, 2 quick videos #1389319

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watching the video again and again..
the fact is that when u do a cuban eight u do the roll after u r on top of the climb, not while u r at it, so u have time to regain some speed.. My thought is that maybe the pilot was tricked by the engine torque, since the really innatural manouver to me is the start of the roll on top of the half loop. I was even noticing with Mossie the black trails that the engine leaves behind, I guess it’s caused by the oil leaking thru the piston rings, since the inverted V engines seemed to be more sensitive about it.

Alex

With all due respect. After 20+ years in the industry, I can say hand on heart that was a prime example of a loss of control and extreme arrogance on the part of the pilot by continuing with the display. If it had happened over here, he would have been pulled from the display – no question. He lost control, and got away with it. End of story. The black smoke is caused by a rich mixture at high RPM to prevent detonation, Black 6 did it, the DB engined 109 the Hanna’s operated did it. It’s the nature of the engine.

May 17, 2005 at 1:29 pm in reply to: Good to see the French can afford to insure Pink Lady #1392959

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Question..

What is the difference?

Answer: Ask the EU

If you ask the EU nothing.

May 17, 2005 at 11:33 am in reply to: Good to see the French can afford to insure Pink Lady #1393132

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It occurs to me that this issue is somewhat more related to the insurance companies than to European legislation…

If, God forbid, Sally B were to end up making a smoking hole in the ground or worse still end up in the side of a building in the centre of London (and the EU legislation is specifically targeted at public liability insurance and mentions 9/11 as one of the driving causes for this change), it seems to me that the amount of third party damage Sally-B would cause is not far removed from that which oft-compared 737 would make. On that basis in isolation, the requirement for Sally-B to carry a one-event level of liability insurance broadly similar to that of a 737 would seem entirely reasonable.

(Lets leave aside for the moment it flying at air shows where HUGE public liability could be incurred if it were to plow into the crowd…)

Now the difference between Sally-B and a 737, as has been mentioned many times, is that Sally-B does not fly the number of hours that a 737 does. OK, well insurers have managed to reduce premiums for classic cars that are only driven a limited number of miles every year, so why cannot they do the same for Sally-B based on the limited number of hours it flies? Is the problem therefore one of the insurance industry’s creation, in that they are levying unreasonable premiums for the cover required based on the frequency of use, rather than a problem with the legislation itself?

Dont forget, the insurers are complying with a directive from the EU. As stated before, at one time it would be the insurence companies that quantified risk and not governing bodies. For some reason, this principal has been turned on its head.

May 17, 2005 at 10:23 am in reply to: Good to see the French can afford to insure Pink Lady #1393198

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The trouble we have here “is political” it is coming from a group of people who are incapable of sorting problems out in their own countries, so the get themselves a position in the EU government and blunder around issuing directives and backing decisions about subjects they know nothing about. Lobbying your MEP etc is about as much use as lobbying a plate of jelly. It will be wobbled and bumped around until it disappears into the EU money pit.
Another thing you have to look at is, how long was this debated for, and from what professional area is a person consulted with regarding this issue. Did they consult with aircraft operators and insurers regarding manufacturer’s weight and balance schedules, and the modifications of the aircraft in question? Who in this country, CAA, Government and operators representatives where consulted over this enforcement and how long did they have to look into this problem.

The above is just my own opinion and observation, what we have here is nothing more than bureaucracy running riot over common sense.

I don’t particularly like Sally B, it wouldn’t bother me if it fly’s or not. However a lot of people do like Sally B. As has been said before it fly’s as a reminder of what B17 and other American aircrew sacrificed in WWII.

That is why it should fly..

May 16, 2005 at 10:54 pm in reply to: Good to see the French can afford to insure Pink Lady #1394145

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That is what worried me.

Good,

thats one vote then.

May 16, 2005 at 9:53 pm in reply to: Good to see the French can afford to insure Pink Lady #1394562

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What would be useful would be to get the facts as to whether this is an EU or GB related problem. Once you know who is the enemy you can make a plan, then you can call…. the “A” team! However you do need facts first.

Then we can vote Avros Finest as next pm.

I’ll do it….

May 16, 2005 at 9:48 pm in reply to: Operation 'Chastise' – 62 Years on #1394575

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62 years ago at 21:35 just starting their climb out to form up,

Sadly, for some, it would be the last time they would form up.

God bless all who served and died with RAF Bomber command.
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