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  • in reply to: Ukraine / Russia dispute aviation thread #2169109
    JSR
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    Why are you going down that route? Why not investigate it as a pure and simple tragic military blunder? I don’t believe that anybody wanted to deliberately shoot down a civilian airliner. IMHO simply poor intelligence on the day led to rebel factions with a limited Buk system believing that they were targeting a Ukrainian military flight. The sad part is that those involved desperately need to cover their tracks and are simply not man enough to admit that it was a tragic error.

    why it will be error? only the incompetent with lower pay and no practical training can make such errors. didn’t it obvious to you that no one want to give advanced weopons to Ukraine as they can make even more errors.
    Malaysian government has given the response. Donald Trump has given his beliefs. he believe only on Russian government.
    Once Poroshenko goes into retirement than he will give pubic interview on RT Just like RT has given opportunity to retired PMs/Presidents of Irak/Afghanistan.

    in reply to: F-35 News and discussion (2016) take III #2169486
    JSR
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    The point was that If the U.S. and allies are determined there isnt a IADS that can stop them.

    Id use:

    2xOhios that would launch 200 Tlams
    10xs F-35s with 80 SDB and 20 amraams
    4 XB-2s with 100 sbds each. Thats 400
    And 12 F-22s.
    4 B-52s firing Malds
    Thats only 30 aircraft and 2 subs.
    I would bet on that force to literally smash all of the Air defenses and fields in Kalingrad.
    The thing working against the defender is the idea that only 1 bombs needs to get through.

    this approach wont work. All those bombers need air tankers for refueling. there can be a lot decoys and camo techniques that decrease the actual bomb to the target much less. diesel-electric subs that are much quieter and numerous than SSGN can effectively hit land and ships.

    in reply to: Russia moving tac air troops to Syria #2169507
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    its the special forces that more effective. big turn around for these people.

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/smooth-operator-qatar-s-ex-pm-breaks-his-silence-1374778660
    Qatar’s ex-PM breaks his silence
    He praised the Russian involvement in Syria, describing their use of special forces as “a good move” and he averred that Russia was “playing a very big and positive role”. –

    in reply to: F-35 News and discussion (2016) take III #2169509
    JSR
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    Don’t get confused between numbers for tracking and engagement, plenty of platforms can track large numbers of targets but only engage a small subset of them. Also Panstir missiles are command guided and there is a limit to the number that can be guided by radio comms at the same time.

    its flexible system. by allowing tracking large of targets. it allows gun to be more effective.

    http://www.janes.com/article/52766/russia-to-launch-production-of-naval-pantsyr-m
    The system is capable of engaging four targets at once with missiles, before its anti-aircraft guns automatically target any that are missed. Standard ammunition loadout would include 32 missiles in a storage and reload system below the ship’s deck.
    The Pantsyr-M can fire either the 57E6E surface-to-air missile (used in the land-based Pantsyr-S) or with the prospective Hermes-K missile, which has a range of 100 km. When using the latter the combat module can receive information sent by an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) against land targets.

    in reply to: F-35 News and discussion (2016) take III #2169513
    JSR
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    SDB range is in excess of 70 miles.
    The U.S. could always just brute force it and use a B-2 or B-21 with 200+ SDBs

    I call this operation our arrows shall blot out the sun

    https://youtu.be/xcYmlfhShIg

    70 miles maybe in high altitude at higher speed. if you using saturated attack with steath aircrafts. it means you are creating a lot of activity at airbases and in the air and this can easily be detected in 21st century. there is no element of surprise.

    in reply to: F-35 News and discussion (2016) take III #2169581
    JSR
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    A simple example. Each panstir has 12 missiles and 700 rounds of ammo per gun. For a battery of 6 panstir that is 72 missiles and 33600 rds of cannon ammo. The missile are effective only out to 12 nm and probably less than that against SDB style munitions while the gun is effective to 2nm. Wiki lists a maximum engagement of 10-12 targets in a minute per panstir, so probably at best 6 per 30 seconds per vehicle.

    those S1 export specification. below Pantsir S2 export specification. When F-35 flying with SDB. it will be probably facing Pantsir S5.
    what kind of SAMs can intercept mach 4 targets?

    https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.wordpress.com/2015/10/30/pantsir-s1/
    The new SOTS S-band search radar increases detection range from 36km’s to “over 40.” The system can now track in excess of 40 incoming targets up from 8-10, and can now engage targets traveling at up to 1,200 meters per second up from 1,000 m/s. Search azimuth has also been increased from 80 degrees to 90 degrees owed to electronic beam steering.

    in reply to: Ukraine / Russia dispute aviation thread #2169605
    JSR
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    Classic trolling…

    Demand proof and then ignore it completely. Respond with a barrage of counter accusations and supposed inconsistencies, no matter how ridiculous or debunked.

    In general seek to derail the whole discussion and prevent anything of substance from being discussed.

    credibility is very low for some one (bellingcat) associated with chatum house/Atlantic council. Obama himself have distaste for these think tanks.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3273797/They-say-wasn-t-Donald-Trump-claims-Russian-backed-forces-probably-responsible-shooting-flight-MH17.html
    ‘They say it wasn’t them’: Donald Trump says he is not convinced that Russia is responsible for shooting down flight MH17

    this Malaysian government position.

    https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/316627
    Transport Minister Liow Tiong Lai has rubbished a report by the Australian News Corp that Malaysia failed to cooperate with the Dutch Safety Board (DSB) in the investigation process into the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 last year.
    Russia need not deny it since there is nothing in the report pointing at Russia,” he said.

    in reply to: F-35 News and discussion (2016) take III #2169709
    JSR
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    Yes, its that easy [said with heavy sarcasm]. We now have some 50 years of SAM systems in action to research.

    you haven’t face upto date SAM network. at most 25 year older tech in battlefield. so your theory is unproven.

    in reply to: Military Aviation News #2169751
    JSR
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    http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-urged-to-approve-gulf-fighter-deal-1462580935

    I am trying to imagine another country on earth paralyzed by indecision with three different orders in hand needing only a stamp of approval.

    this just show you have no understanding of anything. Such buying decision are linked to specific support for these countries. If US government think it cannot fulfill that support or not want the chances of signing are very low even with approval.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2170118
    JSR
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    According to CNN there were 6 Su-34, 6 Su-35 (or they confusing Su-30 and Su-35), 12 Su-24 at the time they were there.
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/06/middleeast/pleitgen-russia-military-syria/

    in reply to: F-35 News and discussion (2016) take III #2170126
    JSR
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    there is risk in manufacturing location of F-35 from foreign suppliers that can go out of business/lack of investment to west coast earth quake/high cost that can shift millions of people to Texas.

    http://www.defenseone.com/technology/2016/05/f-35-production-set-quadruple-massive-factory-retools/128120/
    In all, foreign suppliers make about half of each F-35.

    in reply to: Ukraine / Russia dispute aviation thread #2170131
    JSR
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    It does not matter what EU is capable. Russia will make EU responsible for all past, present, future internal and external obligations of Ukraine. They have Turkey example.

    in reply to: Ukraine / Russia dispute aviation thread #2170211
    JSR
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    The issue being discussed however wasn’t about what the EU should have done to retain credibility with Russia, it was about decisions made by Putin, which worked wonders for his personal approval rating, but sacrificed Russia’s historic ties with Ukraine to achieve that.

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    historic ties?. so you brought your outdated thinking to this thread. not that I expected some thing advanced. Russia ties with Ukraine cant be based on subsidized energy, extracting rent from Russia pipelines and naval base, Ukranian firms providing parts to Russia military products. All those things have no place in 21st century.

    Logically speaking, how much goodwill would one expect between two states in a state of proxy war?

    The rather predictable answer to that is supported by practically every public opinion survey held in Ukraine over the last two years.

    it does not matter what public opinion survey inside Ukraine. it is the Ukranian diaspora historic voting pattern in West that Russia take into account. that’s why Russia is teaming up with China to make Canada economics uncompetitive.

    in reply to: Ukraine / Russia dispute aviation thread #2170543
    JSR
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    I don’t really know what to make of that comment. Russia showed the West that “enough was enough”… by gouging Ukraine? A country that was until 2013, the most Russophilic of all European states where the majority of even the pro-EU segment considered Russians their brethren. In the process, alienating ambivalent, if not friendly states in Europe, frightening its neighbours, including (thus far) non-allied Finland, and breathing a new life into NATO, an organisation that was increasingly being considering an irrelevant vestigial leftover from the Cold War.

    by swiftly invading Russia shows the efficiency and effectiveness of its forces. It sends are very positive message to wider Arab world and West. You can see this from reaction of Finland. A country that is bankrupt by forces of Globalization want to buy Stealth fighters. Just look at Nokia, steel and timber industry. US is the leader of Globalization where it can employ millions of Asians/Hispanic. EU simply cant compete with it. if EU even remotely try to match Russia military might by importing US weopons. there will be social and economic implosion.
    or if US want to come back to EU on same scale as Pre-1991. there will be massive printing of dollars to support it.(look at Irak war period). All those things enormously benefit Russia.

    Maybe being an outsider I have a skewed understanding of the real situation, but I always thought of Russia and Ukraine, as akin to US and UK (or maybe Canada). In that, despite a minor dispute every now and then, and a persistent tug from Europe, their foreign policies were mostly aligned, their industries deeply enmeshed, people-to-people relations extremely deep and an actual conflict between the two simply unthinkable.

    Ukraine is too undisciplined/dysfunctional as country from 1991. the only way in 21st century it can be compitable with Russia economically is for Russia to take it over and completely retrain and retool the labor and system of governanace. otherwise Russia will continue to pluck the suitable labor.

    in reply to: RuAF News and development Thread part 15 #2170978
    JSR
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    Aren’t those our bombers, regularly roaming near their borders – satisfactory enough for your ‘national proud’ and paranoia remission? Yeah, coz more of warmongering hysteria and stress for our economy, which is already in recession, is what we need right now. Then let’s build more tanks and bases, i demand! And share the fate of USSR, in the end of this stupid game. Looks like we didn’t learn the lessson the first time.

    They did learn lesson that’s why they building more effective and efficient weopon systems. There is no more dependence on unreliable allies.
    In fact the more weopons deployed the greater will be investment from Middleast and China. Infact Japan and south Korea caming to same conclusion.

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