@ JSR, a little reality check for you here
Most innovative countries
http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-innovative-countries/Highest and lowest corruption
http://indy100.independent.co.uk/article/the-most-corrupt-countries-in-the-world-ranked-in-order–xJUZ5u9j_xMost economically competitive countries in the world
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-29/these-are-the-10-most-competitive-countries-in-the-worldList of GDP per person, note what happened in Russian with the more than 50% drop in Ruble vs USD since 2014…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capitaWe appreciate your concern but seems that we do not have to worry too much regarding Norway, Canada and Finland..
These are Western methods of measuring index. very out of touch with reality. see diesel gate example. Do they produce more food/steel or energy than Russia at competitive prices.? what great innovations happening in Scandinavia that practically all brands have foreign ownership. and rest are using imported parts.
1. There be more NATO countries.
more does not mean more capability but more burden sharing.
2. You don’t have any evidence to back up claim that Norway doesn’t have money to fly F-35’s.
Norway is taking money out of soverign wealth fund. with current prices and stock market. In 5 years they will not have anything left.
3. Canada’s air force belongs to museum? When they finally make the right decision to buy F-35 it will be decades ahead of anything Russian have.
evidence is very clear. Canada does not have any money left. bombardier is bankrupt. Oil sands and alberta down under.
4. Yes, Finland will be manufacturing parts for the aircraft what are going to purchased.
Finland cannot manufacture anything. This dysfunctional model of manufacturing that every one wants to manufacture parts for F-35.
Russia is in a very bad state and that’s why Putin is trying to do his best to distract people at home. Daily reminder that most Russian fanboys do not even live there… enough said.
with more tourist facilities. more wealthy people will spent money in Russia. they dont have any problem with hard currency or Gold.
http://www.euronews.com/2016/02/09/to-russia-with-cash-chinese-tourists-offset-fall-in-western-visitors/
Russia is enjoying a tourism boom of Chinese visitors flocking there in ever increasing numbers.
http://www.economist.com/news/europe/21684806-how-lure-rich-chinese-take-chance-russia-russian-roulette
How to lure rich Chinese to take a chance on Russia
infact succesfull operation in Syria will encourge more wealth transfer from Arab world. as they respect military power application.
Russia has been lately sending all sort of warnings to Finland but apparently it’s not working anymore. Before 2020 Russia is probably going to have another NATO country on it’s border.
by 2020 there will be lot less Nato countries. Turkey will implode as Arabs cant support its economics for that long when wars are permanent and internal population increasing. Norway will have used it Oil fund. and will not be able to fly its F-35. Canada airforce will belong to Museum. Russia will be uncontested in Arctic.
Rafale ane Eurofighter line will be on verge of closing. not there any engine upgrades in line up. do they make anything in Finland?
http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/countingthecost/2015/11/shutting-shop-abu-dhabi-investment-authority-adia-closing-london-office-151122152900758.html
The Abu Dhabi Investment Authority (ADIA), one of the world’s richest wealth funds, is planning to close its London offices.
Worth an estimated $773bn, ADIA has issued a statement saying the decision won’t affect its investments or commitments to the UK.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-crisis-military-spending-idUSKCN0VS0RR
Sounds like the reality train just pulled into Moscow station…
nope. it will provide more space in factories for exports along with more training for foreign military. there plenty of Middleastern wars pending. and every thing need to be build up quickly.
Finland is currently looking across the pond so to speak. Finnish come the news about F-15’s visiting Finland for training (it come as a surprise to most parliament members) and yesterday it was revealed that 20 or so Strykers are going to visit Finland in next summer… these visits from US military are a clear messages to our eastern neighbor.
Apparently our military leaders don’t trust European cooperation very much.
Finland will sink and swim with EU.
Even India can visit Finland for exercise. it does not mean anything.
thanks for the (on topic) reply
so if Assad can succesfully conquer the area, it will put stress on ISIS in Iraq
yes. once Eastern Syria is conquered. Irak can concentrate on North and not worry about long borders to West.
and what about Turkish SAM units?
Turkish SAMs are short range. and unlikely can deal with long range Kh-31PMK. now the ground superiorty of Assad forces is such that they need less Airstrike but more airsurvellence from big radars of Flankers/Tu-214R. Assad forces does not need to go to close to the border. they are already effective. Its Turkey that need ground invasion and airstrikes otherwise the whole operation will wind up in total defeat. and than it will be Irak turn and than saudi liberation.
agreed
compared to the F-22, it’s technology would be at least 10 years younger
even without the Pentagon’s budget, such a difference in age will always result in certain advantages newer technology has
I’d guess the Su-35 has tech that’s only matched by the F-35, and in some was even surpasses that of the F-35
Electronic and software technology of Su-35 is very new. there is not much difference in budget when it is used for buidling focused core technologies. Putin Spend $55b on Olympics. i am sure in past 15 years. the most effective funds are spent on aviation.
Why doesn’t Mr. Obama and Mrs. Merkel just urge these rebels in Aleppo area to surrender to stop the civilian casualties? Perhaps every Aleppo rebel should have a free access to U.S.A. or Germany. Anyway, they are the moderates.
Okay, okay, I was trying to be sarcastic. A terrible situation in Aleppo, but we all know who has the winning hand there. A lot of sabre-rattling from the northern neighbor, but if there’s any sanity left, nothing more. If the shelling continues from the north, perhaps the Kurds should find a few abandoned Tochka launchers from the desert. It would make a nice counter-battery tool.
the reality is sinking now that even friendly press is writing negative. This war is beyond the technical and financial capacity of Turkey even with arab money. I am not sure they will publicly throw the towel.
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2016/02/turkey-sinking-quagmire-syria-160218130117675.html
Turkey is sinking into the quagmire of Syria
http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/views/political-views/370799/a-very-long-night-ahead-in-syria
A very long night ahead in Syria
Well, 5gen on Su-35 is a little bit too much, let’s say 4,99.:eagerness:
Su-35 has more capabilities than 5G fighter that are currently in service. I will call it 5+.
Turkey says it was the Kurds, vows retaliation
Kurds deny involvementTurkey has been bombarding the Kurds north of Aleppo for 5 days now
just saying, saturation bombardment is a typical prologue to a full scale attack
Turkey also sending F-16 to bomb Northern Iraq. Turkish policies is basically destroying relationship with all the Kurds in the region.
If Russia can liberate Raqqa. than it will make task in IraK much easier to liberate Mosul. and Turks will be thrown out from there.
The point is too connect the region with Syrian sea ports and remove completely the importance of Turkey.
http://mideast.liveuamap.com/en/2016/11-february-massive-delegation-nearly-100-government-and
Massive delegation (nearly 100 government and business officials) headed by #Russia’s Deputy PM @Rogozin in #Iraq.
if Russia does respond to a Turkish advance (doubtful but hey), how would that go?
does Turkey have mobile long range SAM units?
They will use Smerch/Artellery. Since Most of Ruaf fighters have electronic scanning radars. they can see the ground situation at considerable. distance.
I’m sure Turkish F-16’s and SA F-15s would fly cover, but do they stand any chance against the Su-35s?
There is no fighter with electronic scanning radar with long range in either Turkish or Saudi airforce at this point. There is is also lack of engine power to produce acceleration and altitude in class of Su-35.
There will be no Turkish invasion as the risk of a clash with Russia and the SAA is too great.The likely Turkish reply could be more shelling of YPG and escalation against PKK
The person is extremely furious and unstable. . in process even destroying friendly Iraki kurdish economics.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iraqi-kurds-accept-baghdads-deal-pay-salaries-1650669107
Iraqi Kurds accept Baghdad’s deal to pay salaries
now where is Andrxx claim of imposing no fly zone. of sending 5 times more jets as if number of jets is the criteria.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/erdogan-slams-un-us-vows-to-keep-hitting-pyd-terrorists.aspx?pageID=238&nID=95320&NewsCatID=338
“Oh America! You did not say ‘yes’ to a ‘no-fly zone.’ Now the Russian planes are running wild over there, and thousands and tens of thousands of victims are dying,” he said. “Weren’t we coalition forces? Weren’t we to act together?
That’s the point . it’s not investing in stealth fighters with few fixed bases the answer. But unlimited platforms with stealthy cruise missiles like diesel electric sub, compact ships or mobile TELs. Long range tube artillery etc all networked connected with giant radars of big fighters and satellites.
see the latest shopping list of Turkey. stealth fighter is hardly a priority.
I’ll have also a question: do you seriously believe, that any educated person in the West will believe that Putin wants to take the Baltics? Ruskies know that they have way too much to loose. The forthcoming changes in the energy markets are not favourable for them, so pissing more off the current clients in Europe isn’t a good move. What use they could have for Baltics, sure they don’t need the Estonian oil shale? From Estonian city Narva to St. Petersburg is about 150 km and from Finnish border only about 10 km more. And Putin knows enough not to mess with the Finns.
Both change in energy market and climate change is very favorable to Russia. it become largest agriculture exporter this year. It is EU that is need of foreign money and energy. Current low oil prices are hitting Western firms investment projects much harder and upcoming demographic binge in middleast is creating combustible mixture.
http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/EU-Importing-More-Than-50-Of-Its-Energy.html
EU Importing More Than 50% Of Its Energy
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/russias-gazprom-says-exports-to-turkey-up-34-pct-in-january.aspx?pageID=238&nID=94658&NewsCatID=348
Russia’s Gazprom says exports to Turkey up 3.4 pct in January
Maybe this is why Russia is asserting itself lately and why they felt they “needed” to invade Crimea, and go all out to secure alliances and bases abroad. With the loss of Ukraine to the west, this is how NATO’s reach into Russia looks with just medium range, fighter launched cruise missiles, but more importantly, inexpensive decoy drones.
Russia missiles can reach Middleast and Norway oil fields much faster and without any hinderence. there goes your EU oil supply. wars are fought with logistics and oil. Countries like Ukraine are too corrupt to be trusted and will need constant feeding.
What are you talking about? We mustered enough troops for 2 world wars, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan ect. Your crazy.
This is not 1945 generation. The wars in Irak and Afghanistan were not that effective despite very favorable environment. they are low intensity conflicts and still logistics were stretched to maximum that An-124/IL-76 need to be hired.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/us/15immig.html?_r=0
Stretched thin in Afghanistan and Iraq, the American military will begin recruiting skilled immigrants who are living in this country with temporary visas, offering them the chance to become United States citizens in as little as six months
Back to aviation talk. Can Nato Air power keep Poland at least from being overrun?
Once Russia built some more diversifeid pipelines. I would estimate the pressure on EU will increase.
Having 2 divisions of M1 tanks would go a long way twoards dissuading him.
It doesn’t help that Putin, has played Obama like a violin. Putin has exposed that Obama is a waffling liberal.
It’s not Obama problem to share the burden even after lowering US recruitment standards and just open into every one. US simply can’t muster enough manpower with complicated logistic chain. even if Putin bombing send entire Middleast population into Europe. It cannot be stopped.