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what this has anything to do with issue.
EMB-195 is larger than EMB-145 but it is not wide enough for the role to acommodate much more enhanced AWACS system and crew.
It simply cant compete B737 MESMA.

EMB-195 inside width & range is even less than Sukhoi Superjet. and Superjet is creating business jet with 8000km range. so that is more suitable for enhanced AWACS.

KC-390 is too soon to develop Tanker/AWACS platforms. There is more chance of it being failure as Embarer has abandoned segment of competing against B737/A320. what confidence there will be even heavier and more complex transport.

r the amounts of LCA project includes all the subsystems. I dont see Kaveri development cost. and I highly doubt it includes more that $1b or so various GE engines ordered.

Fly away price of EF for 60 aircraft is $115M. not including mission equipmnent and infrastructure. I If they cannot fund 4 generation off the shelf purchase. there is little confidence they will fund 5G.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/02/116_103975.html
Korea likely to suffer budget shortfall for fighter project

it’s been stated before that todays assembly chain is tailored for a rate of about 30 aircraft per year, and as the french state is pretty much broke, it is them who aorder the minimum number of aircraft per year in order to keep it viable for dassault while sepnding as little as possible.

if they could, they’d order even less for a couple of years. now, put an indian order into that and you get a possibility to produce around 40 fighters more in 2 years without any change in french deliveries, and up to 60 “exports” if the french state pauses its deliveries for a couple of years (most french policians would love that, as it would free some cash for other projects)

of course you don’t accelerate the production overnight, but if the agreement is sogned in, say, april (just an example, nobody can say when it will be ,signed for good), they’d probably ask for the first delivery somewhere in 2013-2014, which would leave dassault and its subcontractors to reorganize a bit and be ready to produce at the rate that India needs. what would need to be developed is India’s production (assembly) capability, of course…

Your assuming that IAF wants the same standard Rafale as current production.
This Rafale will need new communication and EW suite specifically tailored. AESA radar need to be debugged for couple of year service. Weopons like Meteor need to certified. In may require Glonass guidance.
The first 18 maybe basic versions but next 22 need to be fully developed. I am excluding new 9T engine for now. You cannot use so low power engine for next 40 years. as new electronic capabilities will require more power.

Deutsche Bank estimates the value of the MMRCA deal to be worth between $15-$20bn, and it expects Dassault (as the core manufacture)to reap around 60% of the total value (this figure excludes Thales’ & Safran’s profit- but they should benefit too). So pousser des hourras!!

$20b is understatement to put it mildly.
F-18E for Australlia is $6B for 24 planes and 10 year support.and those are 2006 prices. add 40% inflation for 2012.

Rafale can never have F-18E production run.
Real cost will be closer to $60B for 10 year licensing, manufacturing, training and weopons.

I don’t deny this but Dassault needs further orders even in the short-term
to increase the capacity utilization in his plants until 2017 which is running at a very low level .Remember ,only 18 fighters will be produced in France ,the rest in India under licence and the whole procurement is spread over a period of 10 years starting 2015!
The same old problem with these licence productions,you sell technology,you sell know-how or even some components ,but your own qualified workforce don’t see much from the work.

This should not be problem. Dassault/Snecma suppose to get upfront fees for licensing & training to Indian workers. This will help it building further improved prototypes of Rafale. See Sukhoi example of licensing to India/China.
but if French state takes the lion share of TOT money than Rafale is doomed anyway.
but it is still better decision than dealing with EADS and the 4 countries.

That won’t provide sufficient margin of superiority over Chinese ‘Flankers’ or PAF Block 50 F-16s. Typhoon does.

China is covered by strategic SAMs for more than two decade now. hence better training and experiance. I would not be surprized that density and effectiveness of SAMs on Chinese side will reach such level that India will not have the quantity of IRBM/ICBMs to successfully lob a nuke. the whole nuke deterrent of India will become questionable. They are already in Tibet.
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In less than 10 years. PLAAF will be world largest airforce. with well over 2000 4th generation fighers. They are adding over 100 J-10/J-11/JH-7 a year.

There nothing preventing China from parking another 800 missiles near Indian border just like Taiwan in addition China has been lunching boat load of satellites so better survellence.
this MMRCA is draining Indian resources as each year ministry of defence thinking that had deal so better reserve funds for it and delay some thing else. but nothing happens. No wonder most of MMRCA supporters have left the forum.

you think the Russian military can keep absorbing the costs of undelivered orders?

Russian military can afford much more than Russian industry can produce. It is unique situation that government has more money to buy products than Industry & R&D timeline. Even if exports are completely stop for next 10 years. It will only make $100b difference.