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with one air refuel Su-30MK has 5200km range. T-50 will be double of it.
http://eng.irkut.com/products/18/238/

Oh okay, $600bn.

Compare it to say the RuAF. How many old planes in there? 180+ F-22s and several dozen F-35s – that’s more stealth fighters than most European nations have fighters in total. Also about 500 F-18E/Fs with AESA, which are hardly old, 100 EA-18Gs, several hundred Eagles with AESA too. How many cruise missiles? A few thousand maybe.

More a case of what they need relative to current threats. Right now, nobody else has stealth fighters, so job done. In 4 years maybe the first enemy stealth fighters will be entering service and then they’ll have probably several hundred F-35s with IRST and DAS, so again, requirement covered and enemy threat countered.

Err… everyone would have predicted that was the aim. How stealthy is it with those canards? Don’t see any other stealth fighter with them. Jet nozzles, non-stealth design. Rear of canards not aligned with rear of wings. PAK-FA – that IRST bubble on ts own has the frontal RCS of several hundred F-22s. What’s the point in an internal weapons bay when that’s on the outside of your aircraft? Non-aligned surfaces, those nozzles. I think it’s yet to be proven that they even are VLO. LO maybe.

It’s the effectiveness of planes not the quantity. Like MIG-31BM2 more effective in implementing no fly zone. F-18E not . SU-34 easily dodge then to bomb Syrians.

So you’re saying they didn’t have a P-18 radar that only came out in 1970? Many countries not even in the Warsaw Pact received P-18s. Your claim doesn’t stand up.

http://thediplomat.com/2014/08/the-f-35-vs-the-vhf-threat/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-18_radar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-18_radar#Combat_History

And they apparently didn’t have an SA-3 either, since that only came out in 1961.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-125_Neva/Pechora

The SA-5s in Libya only came out in 1967.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-200_(missile)

SA-6s in Iraq, Libya and Serbia again only came out in 1970.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2K12_Kub

SA-8s – 1971.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9K33_Osa

It came out in 1970 does not mean the technology behind is 1970. Soviet Union was not very efficient in implementation. They were using vacuum tubes for too long.

True – but it did give an insight into the S-400, which drew heavily on the design concepts and technology of the older system in order to reduce development costs.

where you get this information S400 built on S300 tech? and there is no evidence of minimizing costs. Infact Russia always overspends just like Sochi Olympics..
Just look at S300 customers and see why they cant reproduce S350/S400.

http://blog.hackerrank.com/which-country-would-win-in-the-programming-olympics/

HAL FGFA cant be PAKFA. PAKFA is exclusively designed for Ruaf that’s why no foreign pilot has tested it. they will make modifications to it for separate export model with different materails and ram paint for different rcs. the weight of inside electronics will also be different. no one has said anything about 3500km range.

Su-30MKI has 3000km range while Su-35 with more powerfull engines have 3600km range with 4AAMs for export. T-50 will outperform it by wide margin.

There are actually a number of SAM units that use optical/IR tracking. The SA-3 too has an optical/IR tracking ability. The point is that 8 miles is not a useful engagement range. Even a JDAM can safely remove a SAM from beyond that range, roughly 40km at M1.2. Nobody ever claimed stealth worked WVR, the F-117 had no EW and didn’t even have an RWR, it was a sitting duck at 8 miles. Neither of those issues is a factor for the F-22/35. Furthermore, even the VHF radar only saw the F-117 when the bomb bay doors opened, these were later replaced with a different graphite composite, as were the tail fins.

https://theaviationist.com/2014/03/27/vega-31-shot-down/

Acoustic tracking? Are you kidding?

8 mile is good range for missile based on 1950s tech. optical tracking works when you already know where to look for. its not the 360 degree.
newest sams are protected by shorad/guns against projectiles. that VHF radar is not modern AESA. you fail to understand that F-117 was dealing with 1950s technology in adverse circumstances for Serbs as they could not use airdefence liberally due other Nato fighters. that even missing point of launching BM and cruise missiles on bases where short range stealth fighters are parked. stealth fighters need non stealth tankers and support otherwise they radiate more. its a complete flop.

when you don’t have any technical rebuttal than comment become nationalistic.
Range is key criteria so that it can be parked outside most cruise and billistic strikes from multiple platofrms. its a highly technical field to design such thing at places outside the cost inflation of rest of population economics. it cant be built in private enterprizes nor foreign help or diversity. that works in olympics but not in this field.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20160813/1044240817/russia-defense-fighter-jet-military.html
Not only does the T-50 have superior maneuverability compared to the F-35, but it also travels at a 30% higher speed with a range over 2,000 miles farther.