Don’t try to sell this as a political victory of Russia. What matters is Russia didn’t got anything they wanted, period. I don’t have to sell you or anyone, anything. From political perspective, Turkey shot down the aircraft, and got away pretty clean with it.

your limited understanding is showing here. Russia wants Turkey to keep quiet when it creates the biggest slaughter house in Syria. Russia want Turkey to either help or on the side lines when wider Sunni-Shia wars for control of middleastern oil starts. Russia will be the key player in that kind of wars from airspace and equipment suppliers.
The existence of Modern Turkey solely depends on Russia.
It will be Russia that will provide confidence to rest of EU for tourism. Germanic tourist not spend and without Tourism Turkey construction, real estate and retail markets will collapse.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-needs-to-tell-europe-life-is-normal-inside-says-leading-tourism-representative.aspx?pageID=238&nID=102734&NewsCatID=349
He also noted that there was a loss of around 40 percent in tourism revenue from its German market, although the number of arrivals from Germany to Turkey did not see a dramatic decline.
“This was mainly due to a series of bomb attacks in Turkey during a time when wealthier Germans made early reservations,” noted Bösl, who also praised the normalization in Turkish-Russian relations as a significant constant to strengthen their hands in the European market.

“Travel agencies shape the market. The return of Russians to the Turkish market will strengthen our hands in Europe as Turkey’s tourism sector has started to normalize again. This will boost our sales,” he added.

It will be Russian gas pipelines that will give you rent. It is Russian nuclear reactors with full fuel cycle supply that will give you cheaper electricity for industrials. It is only Russia weopons that you can use in high intensity combat with kurds and assure supply of weopons and spares. infact if Turkey join Russia it can get some spoils in Middleastern Oil otherwise Iranian will take most of benefit.

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Tech transfer from west done? LACK OF tech transfer is the reason why Turkey prefers NOT buying western equipment anymore. Tech transfer is the sole prerequisite of all latest procurements, for example, US agreed on full tech tranfer and licence production of S-70 a few months ago, and T-70 will be the utility helicopter of Turkish Army. They disagreed to tranfer technology of AH-1Z, so there wont be a AH-1T, and A-129 is chosen instead. No country on earth wanted to transfer tech about UCAVs back in ~2007, so we bought from no one, started flying our own armed UAV designs in 7 years. We wanted to licence produce Hellfire missile, US didn’t allowed that, and our UAVs and T-129 today fly with domestic ATGMs. List goes on and on, you see my point, I think.

how many UCAVs and T-129 are actually in service and can they sustain high tempo operations.

Regarding Stealth fighter project, I can safely say TAI is still recruiting new personel each month just for that project, and since you haven’t been to TAI, you haven’t got the slightest idea what resources they may or may not have at their disposal. You probably don’t know the fact TAI is producing the middle hull and inlet ducts for for LRIP F-35As since ~October 2013, and I’d say they have quite equipment and the expertise for working with appropirate materials and composites required in a 5th gen fighter.

the key question is where those workers got trained and from where the industrial machinery imported to built the parts. and there is huge difference in managing parts and the whole project.

the numbers are now very big.

https://www.rt.com/news/355457-syria-aleppo-terrorists-ceasfire/
Since Sunday “nearly 1,000 militants were killed and over 2,000 injured,” the Russian General Staff told media

Ruaf is doing round the clock bombing on Idlib and Aleppo without much public protest from Turkey. there is sense growing that Turkey is disposing off all the islamist inside Syria by pushing them into one place for joint actions.
If Turkey cant become member of EU there is no reason for it to do its obligation for Nato.

What do we even know about the T-50 or J-20 that assures you that pilots will always take them over the F-35? Pure aerodynamics? At supersonic speeds sure, that’s very likely true. Yet what about items such as LO, avionics, and other items that also determine mission effectiveness? It seems like you’re always operating with the assumption that somehow the F-35’s LO attributes and avionics can always be bested somehow and in the end it’s all a matter of kinematics. Even though Russia can have unique and innovative solution, truth is Russia has traditionally lagged the west in avionics.l, and for them to somehow so suddenly reach parity of the F-35 in terms of avionics is assuming that the years of advantage in experience and investment can just be hand waved away. What do you even base this on?

This doesn’t get into the fact that Russia is still buying more Su-30SM and China is getting more J-10s. Yet these planes likely stack up very poorly against the F-22, despite entering service well after the raptor, so should they be dismissed as well?

From where the word tradition comes from. Does China/Korea/Japan had any traditions in fundamental research to make breakthrough technologies to make them largest suppliers of tech industrial chain.
Su-30SM had that big jamming pods and I am sure long range standoff weopons to hit the ground . It’s hitting the fixed bases on the ground that make airplane useful. Indian are going to Brahmos solution presumably the radar can handle the ranged against ships.
Even the Ka-52k is getting 180km radar and 300 km range missiles. I would estimate next fighter upgrade to radars will be at 1800km range

Problem was/is never the AKP rule. When AKP first elected, military didn’t want to make a coup, because that would have shaken the “civilized image” of Turkey, and automatically and perhaps permenantly prevented accession of Turkey into the EU.
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the military in Turkey is not intelligent enough to see that AKP will permanently run Turkey into the ground. EU will not admit turkey whose economic and technical system is complete flop and that has taken millions of people from Middleast to gain favors. infact Turkey is now the biggest threat to EU well being as the Middleastern money that supposed to invest and buy products from EU will be needed in Turkey.
how is the military procurement going now? what happen to that long range SAM system implementation and rest of military projects. you can see they cant implement any thing on time let alone with quality.

[The foiled coup attempt seeking to unseat the government of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has cost the Turkish economy 300 billion lira ($100 billion/90 billion euro), the trade minister was quoted as saying on Tuesday.]

To me, from what I have seen here in Turkey, he is grossly over exaggerating the damage. The economy was already in bad state. With large loans to be paid shortly with no funds. Now there is a plausible reason (a coup attempt) to renegotiate with the loangivers. But hey if I was trade minister; I would also seize the opportunity! 🙂

$100b is not exaggeration when you look loss investment /tourism income and skilled people fleeing/not given appropriate opportunities. but I wouldn’t worry too much about loans as long as Turkey have millions of people from Middleast.

I didn’t even know Russia is operating in that part of Syria.

they publicly called it de conflicting but they very closely observe the country.