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  • in reply to: US could shoot down EU satellites #2622361
    GoldenDragon
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    It is a sad truth that it looks like the EU – provided they continue to steer their current alienating course – and the U.S. will wage war against each other at some point in my generation still. And that’d be the absolutely wrong way to go for White civilization. But perhaps it would be the logically following third part in the drama of self-destruction we use to call World War I and II.

    Then, Distiller, maybe you’ll understand how we feel when some of the most powerful East Asian states (Japan, South, Taiwan) are armed to the teeth by the US so they can kill other East Asians.

    Also, the whole premise of “needing to shoot down EU sateliites” is based on an assumption that China is an enemy which is futher predicated on US involvement in Asia (Taiwan.)

    If the US doesn’t stick its nose in East Asia then “white civilization” wouldn’t have to worry about shooting each other’s satellites.

    in reply to: China's news, pics and speculation thread part deux #2623639
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    Hmmm, heavy traffic of news and picts in both the forums and official media. Probably due to Zhuhai coming up in less than two weeks (:D ๐Ÿ˜€ :D)

    Perhaps the first public declaration of the PRC’s intention of entering the fight for China’s own aviation market. Chinese manufacturers supplying Chinese airlines would by default create giants in the industry.

    http://english.people.com.cn/200410/22/eng20041022_161240.html

    Judging not only by profits and losses: Comment

    The European Airbus and the US Boeing recently took the issue to the WTO about which has taken government subsidies. Apart from the merits of the dispute what deserves our reflection is the reason for these countries of market economy to aid their civil aviation manufacturers, over a long period of time, with indirect subsidies or even direct financial assistance which amount to as much as hundreds of millions of US dollars each year, no to mention the fact that these companies have long passed their childhood and have become well established and vigorously developed “giants” with formidable strengths.

    . . .

    Calculating by simply comparing investments and output China has made a bad bargain and little hope of success is seen in the future. What is more, whether or not consumers and airline companies will accept domestic civil aircrafts is far from certain. For this reason there is no necessity to invest huge financial and material resources into developing large civil aircraft industry.

    Now, the Europe and US’ insisting on presenting the civil aviation manufacturing industry with “generous gifts” effectively rebuts this view. Full support given by Western developed countries to the aviation manufacturing industry not only illustrates the importance of civil aviation industry to the national economy but also the fact that without government support and preferential policies the high-investment and high-risk aviation manufacturing industry has little chance of getting anywhere.

    . . .

    China’s total aviation transportation turnover is already among the top five in the world. Looking from a strategic angle China’s aviation industry should in no case give up such a huge market.

    . . .

    Judging from this point of view not only can we not give up developing our own civil aircrafts and large aircrafts but we also should build a congenial policy environment for it by, for example, providing more support in industrial policy, finance and credit and taxation etc. There are bound to be failures and setbacks in the process, but we should not quit so easily. Nor should we judge its success simply by its profits and losses since its strategic significance and pulling effect are hard to measure.

    It sounds like a direct call to arms for the Chinese aircraft industry. Interestingly enough, this is the 20th year since China gave up the Y10 and divorced airlines from aircraft makers.

    I think we are seeing a first step of a concerted national effort.

    in reply to: China's news, pics and speculation thread part deux #2623672
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    cool, thanks.

    so, is that pretty common then? if so, why did an article i skimmed claim that china is only the second nation after the US to deploy such blades?

    Hollow fan blades were at one point made only by RR and PW.

    So it is definitely not common. It was actually first used in a few select civilian engines by RR and PW. Military projects using the tech would be new. GE is producing the JSF engine with it. I couldn’t think of another military plane with the tech.

    I’m not sure where the Chinese hollow fan blades are being used. Maybe the WS-9.

    in reply to: China's news, pics and speculation thread part deux #2623678
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    It seems like the FTC2000/JL9 has reached CFTE for testing.

    in reply to: China's news, pics and speculation thread part deux #2623682
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    JH-7A production line

    in reply to: China's news, pics and speculation thread part deux #2623686
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    Which engine?

    Comments?

    The picture of the outlet nozzle looks like that from the J-7. Could be the WP-13. But then again it could be pictures from a variety of engines spliced together during a science show.

    in reply to: China's news, pics and speculation thread part deux #2623689
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    http://www.wforum.com/specials/articles/04/10087.html

    WMF quotes Russia’s “People’s Economic Daily” as saying that, following the recent border agreement signed between Beijing/Moscow, the two countries also signed a new billion dollar purchase agreement. This includes brand new avionics, weapon systems, and large number of transport planes, and engines.

    It also mentions that China has bought the Su-30MK-CMU fighter/bomber, Russia’s most advanced export jet, a variant designed specifically for China. The article says it is superior to India’s Su-30MKI. Anyone know anything about this? Is this just the MKK3?

    The Moscow Times claims that Putin failed to secure any new deals for Flankers and Russia is pinning it hopes on Brazil to continue the Flanker line. There hasn’t be anything the Chinese press.

    This is the first time I heard of Su-30MK-CMU.

    in reply to: China's news, pics and speculation thread part deux #2625801
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    Sounds like warning shot across the bow of Boeing, and in the official Chinese paper too.

    Beating Boeing 50-10 in sales is amazing especially in China when the Chinese fleet had been completely dominated by Boeing until just five years ago. If Boeing keeps getting clobbered by a 5 to 1 ratio every year the race for top spot wouldn’t even be close. The Dreamliner better sell because it seems their entire future is dependent on it.

    Boeing’s situation is looking remarkably like Loral and Hughes who used to dominate the world’s satellite market to the tune of 80 percent.

    http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-10/20/content_384005.htm

    Is Airbus ready to take off?

    By Wang Yu (China Business Weekly)
    Updated: 2004-10-20 09:35

    Boeing and global arch-rival Airbus are sparing no efforts to promote their aeroplanes’ different design concepts in China.

    In this bitter battle, Airbus currently has the upper hand in terms of confirmed orders. But what are the prospects for the future?

    European plane maker Airbus turned out to be the largest beneficiary of French President Jacques Chirac’s commerce-driven visit to China as the giant France-based aircraft manufacturer recently struck deals with two major Chinese carriers, Air China and China Eastern airlines.

    Air China agreed to purchase six Airbus A319 planes, valued for their performance at some of the world’s highest airports, in Latin America and China’s Tibet Autonomous Region.

    . . .

    China Eastern Airlines, meanwhile, confirmed its order for 20 Airbus A330s.

    . . .

    So far, Airbus’ confirmed orders for this year in China has surpassed 50, while its global competitor Boeing’s land short of 10.

    . . .

    “China is the new frontier for the development of Airbus. This will probably be the second biggest market in the world in terms of volume in the coming 20 years,” said Forgeard.

    “I am convinced that this is a place where we are going to develop with the whole range of planes, including the A380,” Forgeard stressed.

    . . .

    “China can be Airbus’s main partner outside Europe,” Forgeard said.

    in reply to: China's news, pics and speculation thread part deux #2625867
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    Another story on the new helo planned between Eurocopter and China. This time from Flug Revue

    http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRweek1.htm

    Eurocopter: New helicopter with China
    Neue Hubschrauberentwicklung mit China
    The President of the People’s Republic of China, Mr. HU Jintao and the French President, Mr. Jacques Chirac have witnessed the signature of a Cooperation Framework Agreement between China Aviation Industry Corporation II (AVIC II), represented by its President, Mr. Zhang Hongbiao, and Eurocopter, represented by its President, Mr. Fabrice Brรฉgier on October 9, 2004 in Beijing.

    This agreement aims at launching the development and manufacturing of a new advanced helicopter which will complement the existing range of products of both companies. This helicopter will incorporate the latest technologies and will be available on the market by 2010. It will fulfil the needs of the fast growing Chinese market as well as the world market.

    This venture between Eurocopter and AVIC II is a new step for the friendly and fruitful cooperation which has prevailed between the two companies for more than 25 years, in particular with the Z9, China-made Dauphin and the best-selling EC120 now also manufactured in China by Harbin Aircraft Industries.

    in reply to: Bangladesh to purchase new fighters to replace Migs. #2626538
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    UN Peacekeeping forces are actually paid by the parent organization. In fact, countries often provide troops for UN missions as a way to earn hard currency.

    Why are we answering posts from two years ago?

    GoldenDragon
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    the mist is normal on every airliner (russian, american, chineese or wherever they come from) it occurs when your packs are running and the outside wether is very hot and humid, due to the exess humidity in the air exeeding the capacity of the water separators, seen a lot on A-310 and specially A-330, canadian summer is pretty hot and humid for example ๐Ÿ˜‰
    so nothing to worry about. ๐Ÿ˜€

    Camaro

    I never experienced “steam” inside the cabin and I’ve been on quite a few flights during the summer. Maybe I’m one monkey who hasn’t been out enough.

    GoldenDragon
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    Russia has been part of the ICAO since at least the 1970s when it was still the USSR. So Finland and other has nothing to do with “clipping” the wings of Russian aircraft with an organization that Russia has been part of for decades.

    The ICAO norms are safety guidelines that are standard across the world. Undoubtedly these guidelines are influenced by Western countries and carriers. But Russia’s there as well as China and they’ve influenced those norms too.

    Now, you might be correct in that the norms are currently satisfied by a few select engines made in the US, Canada and Western Europe but they are still part of the requirements. And there are Russian planes which do satisfy the ICAO guidelines. The IL-96 gives an option of western engines (PWs), and the same goes for the TU-204.

    So the Finland routes could have all Russian aircraft that conform to ICAO if the excutives running those routes decide on it. The decision in the end comes down to the carriers. Their job is to build a customer base not be a customer for any particular aircraft manufacturing industry.

    Rightly or wrongly, Airbus and Boeing are simply more trusted. It’s not my bias, it’s the bias of the excutives running the world’s airlines. Just look at the world’s fleets that service international routes and the dominance of Boeing and AirBus. The large liners are already locked up but the regional carrier market is still a dogfight though two firms dominate that market, Embraer and Canada’s Bombardier.

    As far as the RRJ, if Embraer brings in an established set of products at a price $5m dollars cheaper than the RRJ, which is still on paper, the RRJ will be hurt along with the other Russian programs. Why? Because in all probability their only substantial market is in Russia and only if that market is protected from an Embraer or Bombardier.

    GoldenDragon
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    Appropos of nothing in particular, I have flown to Moscow numerous times now – with BA, SAS & Aeroflot – on MD-82’s, B767, B777, A320 & Il-86 and I am bound to say the the most comfortable was the big Ilyushin.

    I also flew Tu-154 to St Petersburg with Pulkova – and that was very smooth.

    Mind you, my preference was for the Russian airliners – if only for the experience.

    They do have a interesting tradition though – all the passegers applaud the crew on landing – very disconcerting the first time you hear it!

    Then there was the Kuban airlines Yak-42 flight to Moscow from Krasnodar.

    Steam came up from under the seats as the air conditioning was switched on – apparently there is no heat exchanger in the system – so the cold air condenses and for a few minutes, the cabin is full of steam !!

    At least that is how it was explained to me.

    Ken

    A cabin full of steam would scare the average American business commuter out of his wits!

    The same for applauding after arrival which must sound to most non-Russian travelers like “Thank you for getting us here alive!” ๐Ÿ˜€

    But given the chance, I would jump at flying on a Russian jet from Aeroflot just for the experience.

    GoldenDragon
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    Iยดm attaching an article got from http://www.defesanet.com.br

    Regards,

    Thanks, A-29! That article you posted is very interesting news indeed.

    Kommersant has learned that Rosoboronexport and the RF Ministry of Defense are lobbying vigorously for a plan to deliver 12 Su-35 fighter planes to Brazil in exchange for 50 Brazilian Embraer planes for Aeroflot. The amounts of the deals are comparable – about $750 million. Both parties are so interested in selling their planes to one another that the probability of such a deal is very high. Its outcome may be decided in November during talks between the presidents of Russia and Brazil, Vladimir Putin and Luis Lula da Silva.

    Aeroflot – Russian Airlines began the process of choosing a supplier of 50 regional-class jet airplanes in July. As Kommersant reported on October 15, OAO Ilyushin Finance Co. (An-148), ZAO Proekt-3000 (Tu-334A), ZAO Sukhoi Civil Aircraft (RRJ), the Brazilian company Embraer (E-170/175 and E190/195), and the Canadian company Bombardier (CRJ-700 and 900) have officially sent offers to Aeroflot. It appears from Aeroflot’s proposal that the company should receive the first ten planes in 2005. However, Russian and Ukrainian suppliers will not have time to set up production and build that number of airplanes.

    It seems that Russia, if the report is true, is more interested in keeping the Flanker lines running than protecting the RRJ project. Also, I suppose they don’t want to risk Aeroflot, who is in need of regional airplanes, with the RRJ which is still in development.

    During President Putin’s just-concluded visit to China, the Chinese did not express any interest in continuing deliveries of Su-30MKK fighters built at the Komsomol-on-Amur Aircraft Production Association (KnAAPO). The company is completing deliveries under the last operating contract to 2006, after which there are effectively no more orders. If a contract is concluded with Brazil, production of the Su-35 will be set up at KnAAPO.

    It seems that that the lack of future Flanker orders (from China) is pushing the interest in a swap.

    In a way, Russia is trading the birth of the RRJ for the survival of the Flankers lines. It is a good decision if they believe that the RRJ has no chance of competing with Embraer outside Russia. At least this way, Sukhoi would guarantee a time-tested product survival.

    Now this is aviation news! Good post!

    in reply to: Small Airforces Pics Request #2626853
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    Very nice colors on the ThunderCats!

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