Originally posted by plawolf
‘layers’? :confused: are u taking about the power lines?

Don’t worry, as Arthur say, just wishful thinking on Rockie’s part.

There is no way to tell layers in a jpeg 😀

Originally posted by SOC
Actually in-service we do refer to destruction rather than electronic suppression as DEAD.

In that case, I stand corrected 😀

From my reading of the HARM’s history is that it is a reworking of the Sparrow for a SEAD role in Vietnam. SEAD was already pretty mature before the HARM or any standoff weapon ever came into service. A SEAD mission before HARM was F-8s and A-4s attacking SAMs and asocaite radars from multiple directions.

The original EW Skyraiders were peripheral to SEAD and were more tuned to GCI jamming.

But this is old information from me Salamander books :p

Originally posted by google
What? How can they disband the Royal Scots and the Black Watch? For shame!

The Black Watch’s original purpose was killing Highlanders and other wayward Scotties for the English.

It then graduated into killing more exotic half-naked natives all over the world. Among the last Brit units to leave Hong Kong.

Originally posted by SOC
Semantics, but what you guys are talking about with HARM and ALARM shooters is not technically SEAD, it’s DEAD (Destruction, not Suppression). Consider this another of them military acronyms the media chooses to avoid to make their lives simpler 😀 SEAD implies EF-111 or EA-6 type jammers, and yes, there is a distinct shortfall in SEAD capability right now.

Planes expending ordnance on SAM or AAA and their associated tracking systems is SEAD.

The original SEAD teams were A-4s dropping dumb bombs on North Vietnamese SAMS and radar tracking stations for them

HARM and ALARM are just standoff versions of the dumb bomb on SAM radar theme.

EA-6 and other “jammers” fulfill the ECM/ECCM role not SEAD and were to blind the not only radar but signals across the board including communications.

Originally posted by troung

Huitong;

“Accoring to Pinkov, FC-1 has a pretty grim prospect on the international market …”

We will all have to see now won’t we…

I say everything is pointing to a FC-1 prospect that is about as “grim” as the K-8’s which had a similiar degree of disadvantage to a F-16-like world beater/standard bearer in its class, the Hawk.

The FC-1 market is not those with access to American technology or those (like possibly in Egypt’s case) allied with the US to the point where American tech transfer is a possibility. If Pakistan has a F-16 assembly line, they would be building F-16s instead of JF-17s in a few years.

FC-1 market is basically those who bought the K-8 for a variety of reasons including cost and politics.

The FC-1 market is guaranteed to a point from the start.

First by Pakistan and then from all the other countries that for whatever reasons are using Chinese equipment today.

Originally posted by m.ileduets
Countries like S&M, Macedonia and Albania take great pride in their armed forces.

That reminds me.

Masochist says to sadist: “Hurt me! Hurt me!”

Sadist: “No.”

Sorry, Vortex. You even lost me this time. Even I can’t translate that nerdy mumble-jumble 😀