Youtube. Certainly looks like a JH-7A firing the KH-31. Actually, there were a very large number of JH-7As on the flight line.
Has the J-11B firing what looks like PL-11 or PL-12.
I don’t see how Super Tucanos would be better than a K-8 armed with a 23mm gun pod and a couple of PL-7s.
They might or might not be. If they had an interception and the SLAF weren’t able to bring down the LTTE aircraft then we can talk about the interceptors. Remember, the opponent is a civilian prop plane. If you can detect in time and scramble/direct a fighter to the scene, that prop plane should be taken down.
The problem is with detection not the interception. Right now, the ground radar can’t detect and then direct anything to intercept.
Most newspapers report that the radar did detect the aircrafts, but I guess our patriotic resident nationalist forgot about the rest…..
Instead of bring in nationalism and fighting for India’s honor in a Sri Lankan (not Indian) thread, just read the articles.
Again, the radar was not working and it was a human who detected the aircraft not the radar.
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/070429/Columns/sitreport.html
Like during the March 26 attack on the SLAF base in Katunayake, the 2D radar there was not in working order on Thursday night. Hence, surveillance of the airspace electronically was not possible. The intruding aircraft were not spotted on radar. It was an Air Force gunner who was operating a gun position at Koombikanda, on the outer edge of the air base and near the runway, who made the first visual sighting of a suspected guerrilla aircraft.
According to the Sri Lankan press, the Indian radar did not work again.
http://www.sundaytimes.lk/070429/Columns/sitreport.html
Radar did not work again but lone gunner spotted aircraft
Like during the March 26 attack on the SLAF base in Katunayake, the 2D radar there was not in working order on Thursday night. Hence, surveillance of the airspace electronically was not possible. The intruding aircraft were not spotted on radar. It was an Air Force gunner who was operating a gun position at Koombikanda, on the outer edge of the air base and near the runway, who made the first visual sighting of a suspected guerrilla aircraft.
The FC-1 in the former Soviet Bloc?
http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=25168
Azerbaijan likely to buy JF-17 multirole fighters from Pakistan
[ 23 Apr 2007 13:41 ]
Azerbaijan Defense Minister Safar Abiyev and Defense Industry Minister Yavar Jamalov are scheduled to make an official visit to Pakistan, APA reports.
The meetings during the visit are to cover cooperation between Azerbaijani and Pakistan in defense industry.
Azerbaijani Embassy in Pakistan and Foreign Ministries of the two countries are preparing for the visit.
Safar Abiyev and Yavar Jamalov are said to hold several official meetings in the Pakistani Defense Ministry. Defense Industry Minister Jamalov will talk with the Secretary of Pakistan Defense Ministry Shaig Siddig Termidi on cooperation prospects. During attending the IDEAS international military exhibition in Pakistan, Azerbaijan showed interest to JF-17 multirole fighters as well as tanks and small arms made in Pakistan./APA
The funniest part will be when actual war between India and Pakistan should start. Then Indians make one call and next days Pakistanis get a fax message from Moscow.. RD-93 spares STOP. RD-93 parts STOP. RD-93 support STOP.
The funniest part is all the previous talk about the RD-93 not going to Pakistan because of some imaginary Indian clout over Russia and today the FC-1 is flying in Pakistan with the RD-93.
Who knows what will happen if and when an actual war starts? Neither one of us can see into the future.
We can only go with precedence and the precedence is that after months of Indian pressure, Russia pretty much said to the world that India has no ability to change Russian decisions.
MIG-35 would be more logical to buy as it is more devloped in avionics and FBW with 3D TVC and rest of FC-1 fleet is based on RD engines for decades to come.
If Pakistan could buy Russian aircraft outright, they would buy the Flanker like everyone else.
Assembly in Shanghai:






The ARJ-21 prototype is being assembled.
Although not a military project, it’s among the biggest programs for Chinese aviation. Xi’an (JH-7A), Chengdu (J-10, FC-1) and Shenyang (J-11) are involved.
http://english.people.com.cn/200704/02/eng20070402_363082.html
Assembly of China’s first regional jet begins
China’s new turbofan regional jet, ARJ-21, the intellectual property rights to which are held exclusively by China, reached the assembly stage on March 30 at the Shanghai Airplane Manufacturing Factory.
According to Wu Guanghui, the general designer of the ARJ-21, components of the aircraft were produce at four different manufacturing bases in Xi’an, Chengdu, Shenyang, and Shanghai. The Xi’an manufacturing base was responsible for the wings and body of the plane, the Chengdu base for the nose, the Shengyan base the engine and tail, while the Shanghai base is responsible for putting it all together.
The first ARJ-21 is expected to ready at the end of the year. The first test-flight will take place in March next year and the aircraft will receive its flying certificate in the third quarter of 2009. The plane will then be delivered to its first customer ¨C Shangdong Air. In 2009, the ARJ-21 will enter batch production stage.
The first ARJ-21 has 90 seats and is powered by an advanced turbofan engine. It is a regional jet with a maximum flying range of 2000 nautical miles, and is therefore able to fly short and medium distances.
According to Wang Wenbin, the head of the Shanghai Airplane Manufacturing Factory, the factory will ultimately have an annual production capacity of 50 ARJ-21 airplanes.
The first stage of production has cost five billion yuan. A series of ARJ-21 regional jets were developed according to different needs. The aircraft can be fitted with between 70 and 100 seats.
By People’s Daily Online
Gorgeous pictures!
There are still a lot of unhappy campers over the installed and non-performing radars.
http://www.centralchronicle.com/20070403/0304191.htm
Sri Lankan newspapers said that Sri Lanka should have gone in for the more advanced Chinese made 4 D radars, which it had agreed to buy, and not given in to Indian pressure to take the Indian gift instead.
“The country’s defence must be decided by the country’s leaders,” said The Nation on Sunday.
http://www.sibernews.com/news/sri-lanka/-200704018010/
Sunday, 01 April 2007
The Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna (JVP) is to initiate an anti terrorist organisation called the ‘Anti Terrorist Front’ subsequent to the Air Force Base attack last week. The new movement spearheaded by the JVP is aimed at countering pro-LTTE propaganda, sources said.
Meanwhile the national patriotic movement which also has prominent JVP members such as Wimal Weerawansa in its fold has questioned the government as to why they bought an old radar system from India when the Chinese government had already offered a technologically developed radar system to Sri Lanka.
I challenged you, to PROVE YOUR POINT without that your trolling.
The point is in the news articles I posted. The radar system is inadequate.
Firstly you said,
1> Radar is faulty
2> India supplied bad radars.
and “now”
3> Indian radar is inadequate “even if” Srilankan govt doesnt says so.
Again those are in the news articles I posted.
BUT did the radar was even switched on in the first place to do its work? NO IT WASNT! SO?
Again, more than one article said the radar was trouble from day one and on the day when it was most needed it was broken.
If a system is turned off in wartime then that is a problem in itself — as the articles suggest.
“Hizbullah penetrated barak defence; so ISRAEL NEEDS AEGIS “EVEN IF THE BARAK SYSTEM WAS “OFF””
If the Barak system is constantly off then the Israelis would need a new system as well.
If you want to discuss which radar “CHINA” “NEEDS” “TO” give “Srilanka” to Start another thread; It has no bearings to Indra II 2D radar system.
Joey, this thread is not about Indians or Chinese. It’s about the Tamil Tigers air attack that should have been detected but was not. It just so happens that some Sri Lanka newspapers are blaming the radar.
That is a valid point in this thread. It’s not an Indian thread. No one is “trolling” for Indians in a thread concerning Sri Lanka. The papers report that there are sections in Sri Lanka very unhappy with the Indian radar. And that fact belongs in this thread and should be debated.
To add..
Not just assembling, but making them as well– By 2009, HAL will be making the complete Al-31 FP as well. The MKI production is going to be one of the most “outsourced” one in HALs history etc…..
Apart from the MKI, the Jaguar and MiG-27 etc …
Then there will be the MRCA etc….
Then theres the LCA ….
How exactly is any of these Indian projects relevant in a thread about a Pakistani cruise missile?
I’d state that Pak needs to get out of its fetish of comparing itself with India in terms of industrial ability- there is simply no comparison between the two.
The irony of the statement is we’re in a thread about a Pakistani weapon and it is suddenly inundated with posts from India on the LCA, MKI, etc.
In this thread, the “fetish” is not Pakistan comparing itself with India but the other way around.
If posting Sri Lankan reports on the inadequacies of the radar is “trolling” then there is to be no debate in this thread at all?
Is it okay to blame the Sri Lankan military for supposedly improperly operating the Indian radar but not the radar itself? The problem could be either one.
The news articles contain more than a few who believe it is the radar not just the personnel. All they are saying is that a radar that is not working during wartime is not a viable piece of equipment.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/ID03Df04.html
In December 2005, India gifted Sri Lanka with two indigenously developed Indra-II radars. Soon after the attack on Katunayake, sections in Sri Lanka blamed the radar for the attack. A report in the government-owned English daily The Island said the radar was defective and had failed to detect the LTTE aircraft. The Lankan government subsequently denied the report. It has emerged since that the radar at Katunayake had been switched off for maintenance work, but this has not quelled the clamor for Chinese radar among some sections in Sri Lanka.