I would bet majority of the viewers in this thread are Mainland Chinese who come here to seek more information regarding J20.
That is a far more plausible answer though any picture we see here will have come from the Chinese forums in the first place.
AFM is strictly a secondary conduit of PRC aircraft development for people who can’t read Chinese.
There are 1000 guests currently in this thread! Doing a quick check around the forum, the top thread (“Rafales for Brasil”) besides this one has 9 viewers.
I truly doubt those guests are bots and crawlers as one person tried to explain it. Why would a thousand bots and web crawler ignore the other threads?
I could only imagine the amount of traffic when we get clear photos.
Don’t get too excited.
A lot of those “guests” will be bots and web crawlers.
Why would bots and web crawlers target just the J-20 thread?
This one has 1000 guests while all the others have between 1 and 5 guests.
The bots and crawlers would have lit up all the other threads as well.
But something is strange, chines officials said that they want to purchase a new batch of Russian equipment.
Also Su35, some days ago.http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/24/AR2010122402788.html
The Post is a respectable paper but there is a lot incorrect information in there that I wonder if he actually did any research and had instead just took quotes from Russians based in Beijing verbatim.
FC-1 is part of the Super 7 which is a US-related program not Russian. The China nuclear sub program didn’t appear in the last two years, the latest Jin class is a follow on to the Han class from the 1960s.
That said, I don’t disagree with the premise that the US overstate Chinese military strength or intention.
Pomfret is a respected China correspondent especially on the social and economic end of things. This might be the first military report I’ve seen him do.
Nah QuadroFX the Sukhoi S37 doesnt have an all moving tail.
The photo is a little too grainy to tell but it looks like articulated vertical stabilizers with no rudders. The whole stabilizer looks like it has rotated inward.
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Are you sure? Using WS-10A is certainly too much risk for test flight.
The WS-10A is being used in J-11B units. So that is a wringing out process in motion.
Though I would agree that Shenyang would probably put its trust in the AL-31 in the initial prototypes.
There are over 700 guests watching this thread, right now. Wow! This seems to have captured just about everyone’s imagination. Can’t wait for more pictures to come out, this is turning out to be one fine end of the year.
I think if we looked at the J-10 and FC-1 threads in years past, we would find similar numbers.
For all its mystery, China has been like clockwork with its fighters projects in the past decade. Every five years or so you’ll first get rumors, then hints and finally full pictures of aircraft.
Sites like AFM and CDF have been become a default platform to watch these events.
Z9
Supposedly Kenyan Z-9wk. Probably pre-delivery paintjob.
Y-12
Peru and Kenyan
Venezuelan AF
K8
Venezuelan K8
Aviación Militar Venezolana
China is not the only place which can make cheap PC components. Taiwan makes better quality stuff anyday. And many companies have their manufacturing centres in Indonasia, Singapore, Malaysia etc.
China needs the world more than the world needs China.
Totally proven false by the Recession. Chinese exports to the US and other Western nations plummeted by up to 30%. China should have been pulled into a economic contraction if China is as dependent on exports as some people like to believe. Japan and Korea which do depend on exports to the West really went into recession during the same period.
Instead China continued to grow and in fact grow so fast that it helped pull Japan and South Korea out of the recession. China acted like an economic driver (like the US) during the recession and not as another export dependent nation.
now kids, this is what happens when you take a joke thread too seriously 🙂
This is what happens when you masquerade racism as a “joke.”
Your point was that China was not the second largest market and you said it because of your racial prejudices not because of the facts. I had to press your face into the facts in the form of a Boeing VP who said that China is the world’s second largest market. Period.
China will get investment and offsets simply because money is the whole point of commercial aviation or any other business and money talks.
This idea that China will not get aviation work because of some racial prejudice expressed in this thread is simply false.
An entire assembly line for the A320 is currently delivering Airbus planes from Tianjin. That’s like pretending an elephant standing in front of you is not there because your thought process (influenced by dislike of the Chinese) refuses to believe it.
China is only important as Boeing makes money and Airbus makes Money, China has no magical qualities
Who is talking about “magical” properties? China is no different from any other country in the world. A country is important to an aviation firm only as much as it can make them money.
China can make them money and China can demand offsets. It’s that simple. You are pretending that China will be excluded from aviation work. No it won’t, as long as it remains the world’s second largest market it will get work. There is no magic. Money is straight forward.