Just a quick question that has been brewing in my mind – why don’t the USAF and other land based airforces use the F-35C? Are there such insurmountable differences between the two versions? Would it in fact save any money to drop the A version?
Two main reasons:
1. The F-35C costs $15-$20 million more than the A due to increased material usage.
2. The F-35C is g limited.
No info available on any Israeli CFTs, but they are planning on developing a 600gal EFT.
To carry the PWIV, Brimstone & successors and Storm Shadow at the same time, the PWIV or Brimstone would go internal (A2G station), the Storm Shadow would go on the inboard pylons and the the PWIV or Brimstone would take up the outbound pylon.
As to how many missiles if ASRAAM is used, the final design has not been released so it is not known. The likely format will be 2 ASRAAMs and 2 AMRAAM/Meteors.
Why waste internal space on a 9x when you could have an AMRAAM instead? Yes, an internal ASRAAM/9X would require a trapeze launcher which has been drawn up.

Brimsotne/JAGM internal numbers, nothing has been announced.
Storm Shadow weighs 2700lb so it would take up the inside pylon (5000lb class) unless the outside pylon can be rated a little higher (currently 2500lb class). The JASSM weighs in at 2250lb so it can be carried on all external A2G pylons. JASSM also has a longer range than Storm Shadow.
The UK’s 500lb LGB (even in F-35B) is slated for internal carriage and all 1000lb LGB and 2000lb LJDAMs should also fit the F-35A/C.
One of the other factors affecting “shelf life” is how the AAM is carried. Internally on the F-22/35/Pak-Fa/J-20 will allow for a longer life without the need for a rebuild due to a lot less stress put on the AAM.
A patent and a trademark are completely different things
I never said they were the same, or even similar.
patents in China are nothing like those in the USA.
Of that I have no doubt. 😉
Don’t forget, China is the PEOPLE’s republic and is a socialist country, so patents don’t work in China. Oh, and AVIC’s DSI has nothing to do with LM’s. They are the same solution, yes.
LMAO.. sorry but that was just too funny.
If China does not use patents, then why do they have a Patent Office?
http://www.chinatrademarkoffice.com/
btw, The LM DSI testbed was a mod of an existing F-16, not a new build.
Do you even read your own links?
I’ll summarize it for you – Sequence of events:
1. “Research into the DSI was done by Lockheed Martin in the early 1990s.”
2. “The first DSI was flown on 11 December 1996, installed on a F-16 Block 30 fighter” US Patents filed the same year.
3. Two US Patents are granted in 1998.
4. Either by seeing the patent info, seeing the F-16/DSI work or seeing early X-35 info, CAC decides to change the JF-17’s design to include DSI “Work on the DSI was started in 1999”.
Such patents are absurd.
Pretty much sums up China’s whole outlook on ANY patent.
Why are you trying so hard to give them credit where it is not due?
Are the Wright Brothers not credited with the invention of the airplane even though is was just a “tech demonstrator”?
Your own words betray you “JF-17 Prototype 06 is the first plane having DSI even though X-35 preceded it.”
While the JF-17 is the first operational plane to have DSI, they are neither the inventors of DSI (LM) nor the first plane to fly with it (F-16/X-35).
shure??
The JF-17 prototypes were produced in two different versions. The first batch (PT-01, PT-02 and PT-03) contained a standard intake (as in your photo). The second batch (PT-04, PT-05, PT-06) had DSI.
Again with the blurring of history? The X-35 flew YEARS before PT-06.
Don’t you mean the F-35’s DSI? 😉
Um, no. The toe-out of the pylons was to ensure safe separation of bombs & tanks.
Here is the pilot of Vega-31 (the F-117 shot down) recounting the mission, shoot-down, and rescue:
It is over an hour long.
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-070613-031.mp3
http://www.f-117a.com/Vega31/Vega31-1.html
Takeaways:
1. It was on egress, not ingress
2. There were 16 F-177s (two groups of 8) that flew that night.
3. Single-ship, no wingman
4. No mention of warning or RwR
5. Visually acquired the SAMs as they ascended through the low cloud layer (no mention of MLD or MAWS)
6. First SAM overflew the F-117 but did not detonate via a proximity fuze.
7. Second SAM detonated via proximity fuze.
8. Full moon night
9. Bright Orange and White parachute.. great for hiding from the enemy 🙂
10. Actual mayday call recorded
“IF”? Really?
The F-22 was not deployed in Libya because it was not needed and the decision was made not to spend airframe hours on a mission where it cannot offer a substantial contribution.
The primary purpose of the F-22 is as an Air Dominance Fighter and the Libya campaign was all about the Strikers.