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  • in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2295869
    SpudmanWP
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    Yes, every air force that operates the A-10 is moving to the F-35. All of them. :rolleyes:

    Russia is also moving away from the Su-25. Btw, any big-gun CAS in production? Thought not 😉

    Better SA in some situations sure, not in others. Again, all the offboard assets in the world won’t help you find a bunch of guys in a treeline, and neither will the troops in contact if they are heads down.

    the troops will tell you where to look and the EOTS will do the rest. Besides, the EODAS is only system that can track ground fire and AAA to its source.

    What happens to the A-10 with CAS in denied airspace?

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2295879
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    That is probably true, but not for any good reasons.

    Every military disagrees with you. They are all going to PGMs and away from bigger guns. The weight cost of the GAU is just too large for the few times it is needed.

    Not sure that the CEP of PGMs compares favorably with that of guns.

    The CEP of LG PGMs is less than a yard (for missiles) and about 10 feet for LGBs. The same cannot be said for the GAU-8.

    As far as multi-pass, I think you mean GPS PGMs there.

    Nope, LG PGMs can be ripple fired to arrive on target every few seconds (the Apache does this with the Hellfire all teh time). MMW PGMs (like Brimstone) can also be ripple fired.

    Again though you are completely ignoring the realities of using those types of weapons in a fog of war type environment,

    A F-35 orbiting will likely have better SA than an A-10 and can take the time to properly engage the enemy without the enemy knowing it’s coming.

    The facts do not support your conclusion.

    History supports my conclusion as all military planners are planning around PGMs and less on guns.

    Beyond that, an A-10 can carry more PGMs, for longer, more cheaply than an F-35, AND it has a useful gun.

    The F-35 has better SA, range, combat load, penetration ability, ect than the A-10. Again, history is leaving the gun-based CAS fighter in it’s dust.

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2295882
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    A-10C can use Hydra/APKWS, SDB, JDAM in addition to Mavericks etc. And it’s certainly not outside the realm of reason to fit them with Hellfire or JAGM.

    This was not the case when the A-10 was designed around the GAU-8. If they had the wealth of PGMs that we have today, the GAU-8 would have never been created.

    Safer, sure. More accurate, not necessarily. In an ideal environment where the friendlies are behind cover, the enemy is in the open and you have all these lightweight UAVs orbiting around to give you 100% SA, sure. But in real life there is always the possibility that troops in contact get confused, are unable to communicate, ran out of batteries for their GPS or simply can’t see what is going on. Even with a camera pod, orbiting two or more miles of slant range away simply will not give you the SA you need.

    LG PGMs will always be more accurate than a gun. They also let you engage multiple targets in a single pass (try that with a gun and NOT spraying an entire area).

    The gun has ceased to be an cost effective system in the light of PGMs that allow the accurate delivery of fire from safer altitudes.

    btw, there are Less Lethal weapons for urban areas (concrete bombs, variable blast explosives, etc)

    On the 20k issue, one of the most used CAS asset is the B-52 from high up.

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2295909
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    1. Compared to the Maverick, the Brimstone/Hellfire/JAGM are cheap (and can be carried in much higher numbers). Other PGMs are even cheaper (SDB, JDAM, & LG-Hydra, etc).

    2. The gun requires that you fly low & slow directly towards the target. PGMs allow a much safer and more accurate engagement of a target.

    3. The 30mm on the A-10 had DU rounds, not explosive, so the 25mm on the F-35 is already at a support advantage there.

    4. The gun is a “last ditch” weapon on the F-35 for it has much more effective A2G & A2A weapons. The same cannot be said for the A-10.

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2295917
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    The number of rounds for the A-10 was high due to the high cost and low availability of smart anti-tank munitions.

    With the advent of the Hellfire, Brimstone, JAGM, LG-Hydra, JDAM, SDB, etc… the space for a large amount of rounds is no longer needed.

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2297715
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    Here is a shot from the front. Still no great drag issue like the F-18.

    http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt271/SpudmanWP/f_35_external_load1_190.jpg

    btw, the pod ain’t that big.

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2297785
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    Ugly, as opposed to what?

    http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt271/SpudmanWP/f35stealthJSFgun2.jpg

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2297825
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    Yes. For example the new BRU-69 has a KPP of 1/2 the RCS of the BRU-55 (IIRC).

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2297841
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    It’s way to early to say that a station is single use (I have seen a F-35 flight sim demo with a AIM on the centerline).

    On the 9X issue, unlike the F-18’s pylons, the 9X’s tilt to the side does increase the drag on the pylon.

    The under view shows that all the pylons are parallel to the direction of travel.

    http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt271/SpudmanWP/f_35weaponexternalunderzoom_321.jpg

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2298276
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    The cant of the 9x pylon serves two functions; to provide clearance for the mid-board pylon and to clear the flap.

    Yes, the bays will open with the gun in place. Look at this view from below and you can see the space provided with the doors open.

    http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt271/SpudmanWP/cea308fe.jpg

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2301097
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    The colorful tail means AF-1

    in reply to: Hot Dog's Ketchup Filled F-35 News Thread #2301138
    SpudmanWP
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    Correct, 6 under the wings and one central (plus the 4 internal). Not alot in knows about the central pylon except that it is fully wired (not needed for just a gun) and is classified as A/S (Anti-Surface).

    http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt271/SpudmanWP/F-35_Weapon_Stations.jpg

    I did see an flight sim a few years back that had an AIM on the center-line. I’ll have to dig it up.

    btw, that flight with the external pylons also has AMRAAMs and JDAMs internally.

    in reply to: About missiles and radars #2301305
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    That is a JDAM-ER kit, which the USAF does not use.

    That pic is the JDAM-ER kit that Boeing is co-developing with South Korea.
    http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-to-co-develop-910kg-jdam-er-wing-kit-with-korea-324706/

    in reply to: USAF cancels AMRAAM replacement #1794174
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    The AIM-120D is going into dedicated OT in FY2012 and scheduled for multi-service IOC in FY2014. Over 1100 AIM-20Ds have been and are being produced (lots 20-25).

    in reply to: Syria's Air Defences #2319904
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