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February 9, 2010 at 3:22 am in reply to: Northrop-Loral F-19A Specter #2390383

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Three more shots:

Top

Rear

Cockpit

February 8, 2010 at 9:49 pm in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390520

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I have no doubt that the Pak Fa will be a successful program considering it’s history. But, you have to take a historical perspective when judging where this program is heading.

The US has a HUGE lead in time and operational experience in the areas of AESA radars, RCS shaping, LO treatments, integrated avionics, weapons, naval operations, etc.

I just do not believe that anyone, not just Russia, can overcome that kind of lead on their first try.

You are right in that I should not have said “Never”. How about extremely unlikely?

How about if I say they have a chance if they are accompanied by a squadron of Sus’s flying in formation?

February 8, 2010 at 9:38 pm in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390527

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I changed to 40 per page and there is still 92 pages while this thread has 17. 🙂

btw, it’s not Key Pub but:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?149828-Sukhoi-T-50-PAK-FA/page241

February 8, 2010 at 9:17 pm in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390536

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Time to start the Episode XII ?

Some boards are already pushing 225+ pages in a single thread.

February 8, 2010 at 7:45 pm in reply to: Northrop-Loral F-19A Specter #2390621

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I am “acquiring” the movie as we speak.. I will let you know what it was ASAP.

Looks like it was neither, but a new design.

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February 8, 2010 at 7:01 pm in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390663

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Gov development is necessary for economic reasons. Private industry could not pay for 5th Gen fighter development.

February 8, 2010 at 6:19 pm in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2390676

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My reference to dominance was in relation to the quoted article. The article quoted that the Pak Fa was;

In late January 2010, the PAK FA made its maiden flight, ushering in an end to an era of US dominance of stealth, fifth generation fighter aircraft.

Flex,

Your #1 has to be split into two categories. Pak Fa’s on Russian ground or in a client state.

Attack on Russian ground is not likely, even today, let alone at some point in the future.

That leaves client states. The US Dominance in this are is not likely to ever be challenged.

February 8, 2010 at 7:13 am in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2391004

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Even considering “ushering”, the T-50 in it’s final form, will not likely be on par with either the F-22 or the F-35 and it will NEVER be produced in quantities to challenge the US’s dominance in this area.

Challenge monopoly yes, dominance never.

February 8, 2010 at 6:27 am in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode 11.0 #2391031

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You used the wrong word.

The US has not lost it’s dominance in the area of Stealth aircraft, just it’s monopoly. Actually, we still have that till the PAK FA goes IOC.

February 7, 2010 at 11:33 pm in reply to: the F-35, does it make any sense? #2391118

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Ask and ye shall recieve:

http://www.dtic.mil/ndia/2007targets/Day1/Davisday1.pdf

February 7, 2010 at 4:00 am in reply to: Northrop-Loral F-19A Specter #2391598

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I am “acquiring” the movie as we speak.. I will let you know what it was ASAP.

February 5, 2010 at 9:05 pm in reply to: Rafale v Typhoon v F22 and the rest…Was there ever a conclusion? #2392239

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Or, if there was more than one F-22, it could have triangulated.

February 5, 2010 at 5:59 pm in reply to: USAF adds IRST pod for F-15C #2392420

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OR… Our radar and defensive electronics have progressed faster than optics thereby negating the need for IRST.

Now, with the advent of VLO fighters and the ROW catching up with radar tech and defensive electronics, we have decided that an advanced IRST would be a good addition to have.

I still think they should have included the F-22’s AIRST. Damn bean counters!!

February 5, 2010 at 3:44 pm in reply to: the F-35, does it make any sense? #2392576

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Sintra,

It’s a simple Typo. They copied the numbers from FY2010.

Another glaring example of a typo is on the FY2011, under “Total FY2011”. They added the normal buy (22 @ $148.9) and the OCO (Overseas Contingency Operations) buy (1 @ $127.7) for a total of $276.7 instead of an average of $147.9. They added the “Weapon System Cost” instead of averaging also.

February 5, 2010 at 6:41 am in reply to: the F-35, does it make any sense? #2393134

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P-1 contains more than just the production of a F-35.

P-1 also includes :
Airframe PGSE (peculiar ground support equipment)
Engine PGSE
Avionics PGSE
Peculiar Training Equip
Pubs/Tech Data
Other ILS (Instrument Landing System, likely upgrades to airbases)
Production Eng Support

These are all things that can change from year to year and have nothing to do with the actual production of a F-35.

Try and compare apples to apples.
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