MAWS = EODAS, in what universe? MASW is just a warning devise that at best tells you a general direction of in inbound missile.
These are features of EODAS that MAWS does not do:
1. Provide YATO (You Are The One) functionality which tells the F-35 if the threat is headed for him or not.
2. Track all airborne objects (SAMs, AAM, planes, drones, AAA) within the WVR environment
3. Allow for the guidance of HOBS missiles
4. Act as a replacement for NVGs in order to see around the aircraft in low light conditions.
5. Organic BDA, regardless of the angle of the plane
6. Visual quing of detected objects from GMTI and SAR maps
7. Fully fused into the battlespace
—EODAS gets with a software update (ie it’s been demonstrated but not part of Block 3F)
1. TBM tracking to include GeoLocation of the launcher
2. Detection of ground fires (with Geolocation) to include MGs, RPGs, Arty, MLRS, etc
“F-16E/F internal FLIR” = IRST yes, FLIR no
In both cases (MAWS & FLIR) they are not completely fused.
LM & the JPO disagree that the B had a large impact on the airframe design.
The largest single impact was the USAF requirement for a single engine.
Second was a 2k bomb bay imposed by the USN.
MILITARY SERVICES 5TH GENERATION TACTICAL AIRCRAFT CHALLENGES AND F-35 JOINT STRIKE FIGHTER PROGRAM UPDATE
For all PDFs of the depositions
https://armedservices.house.gov/legislation/hearings/military-services-5th-generation-tactical-aircraft-challenges-and-f-35-joint
US Air Force must retrofit 108 F-35As
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/us-air-force-must-retrofit-108-f-35as-434241/
That is what concurrency is all about, nothing new.
Just to give some perspective, Block 3i jets will cost about $1000 to upgrade (software only) to Block 3F.
Block 2B jets, since they need Tech Refresh 2, are about $4.5mil each to get to Block 3F.
These costs are over and above the “Concurrency Costs” which covers things found & fixed in testing.
Here is a graph showing what the estimated Concurrency Costs are per LRIP.

No one givs damn.. Those sensors could easily have been installed even onto an F-16.
Nope. There is no room in the F-16 for a radar of that size (1600+ T&Rs), internal EOTS, EODAS, updated computers to process & fuse it all, and MADL to share it all.
If it were so easy then people would be doing it, but they’re not.
There is a reason why having a VLO airframe is critical and that’s the ability to get closer, get better data, share it without giving your own position away, etc.
The F-35 does a better job of ID’ing targets thanks to data fusion and better sensors.
–Don’t make the same “oops, forgot to calculate the weight of empty space” error that LM did
–Don’t try to cram the 2k bomb into the F-35B (no need for SWAT)
–Fund dev with more resources
–Plan for more contingencies
–Fire Gilmore
–Fund original ramp-up schedule
Early pre-contract prices were estimations, not “promises” and reflect a completely different Baseline Year [BY] (=inflation adjusted year).
Most people only quote the “cost” without stating the the BY.
Btw, it’s only “overpriced” if it’s somehow not worth the new price. The recent Red Flag has put that argument to bed. Don’t get me wrong, they blew the contracted cost but the DoD & Partners are still satisfied with it at it’s current price curve.
As far as “outdated” (no longer useful or acceptable : not modern or current), please tell me how that applies to the plane as a whole?
F-35 and F-22 are 5. gen and thus not part of this discussion (see first post that specified 4.5 gen… :))
Perhaps you should tell that to OB.. the guy who actually brought them into the conversation.
gripen E …its directional data link means a stealth fighter is forced to use radar, at which point its no longer stealth and can be detected at greater ranges.
Here’s a question…. If there is no connection, then how are GPS coordinates passed to P2E/DMLGB?
Are they only used or pre-planned targets?
The GBU-12 can probably hit slow moving targets,
Correct which is why they need a weapon with more control authority to engage a 70mph target (even with the gimped manual lead).
The leading contenders would be Raytheon with a modified Paveway IV using a SDB II seeker and Lockheed Martin using a modified DMLGB using a JAGM seeker. I don’t think Boeing can get sufficient terminal maneuverability with a straked JDAM and they do not have an in-production IR imaging seeker.
The weapon has to be in production already, and must not include any new development.
A `sources sought’ notice posted on the Federal Business Opportunities website on 10 February calls for information from the US industry only on a non-developmental precision-guided munition (PGM) capable of being integrated onto the F-35A, ahead of an expected request for proposals (RFP).
As noted by the Air Combat Command’s request for information (RFI), an initial 400 weapons are being sought of a total inventory of 1,200. The first contract is expected to be awarded in the third quarter of fiscal year 2017, with deliveries of the initial order to begin no later than six months after the contract date {ie Q1 FY2018}.
My money is on DMLGB (why would you put a JAGM seeker on a Paveway?).
Well the report doesn’t say that:
Sorry that I was not clear enough and was referencing old info. While the laser does some leading, the weapon has to be able to constantly change it’s angle of attack to keep up with the new point of impact. The spec calls for a 70mph (112kph & constant velocity) target. The spec also refers to Block3F in which the EOTS laser will meet the full spec. I’m not even sure if Block3i requires moving target designation but I’d have to look that up.
So what is the list of candidates?
Nic
Basically since it needs to be laser guided then it will have to be a derivative of the PavewayII or PavewayIV LGB since they both will be part of (and are the only LGBs in) the Block3F package.
So does the AASM fit in the weapons bay?
Nic
It would, but the weapon used has to already be part of the Block3F package.
The spec is for 70mph moving target capability and the GBU-12 simply cannot do that. The weapon needs to properly lead the target and be able to change direction as needed (per the .2g @ 40mph spec).
The laser never “leads” the target, it’s up to the weapon to lead the target based on speed, angle of attack, altitude, etc.