Anyone know which Mustang was at Shoreham on Saturday (28/02/09) – only saw it taking off at the last moment and didnt have time to get the bino’s out.
A quick e-mail to the very helpful people at Shoreham ATC sorted this one out, apparently it was F-PANG, a MJ-77 3/4 scale Mustang – should have gone to Specsavers!!::D
Mustang
Anyone know which Mustang was at Shoreham on Saturday (28/02/09) – only saw it taking off at the last moment and didnt have time to get the bino’s out.
Excellent video – reminds me of the last time I saw Miss Demeanour at Kemble.
I did have to look twice though to see that JW was really flying with the canopy open at one stage – does any one know if this standard practice in service?
G-CBEL
Does anyone have an update on G-CBEL, is she still with Air Atlantique at Coventry and is she still flying?
Hi Mark,
That’s no problem, I’m just interested, as yourself in the future of seeing a lot of non-Merlin powered types continuing to fly in the UK.
This raises the question which perhaps one of the Spitfire experts on here could advise on – how interchangeable are the Merlin and Griffon engines in a Spitfire and what “approval / certification” would be required if you were to “re-engine a Merlin powered spitfire with a Griffon” or would it be a different process as both engines are type approved.
“Without drifting this thread into “re-fitting” another radial into this airframe type thread, if an aircraft were to have an alternative type of powerplant fitted, in the UK would this effectively become a new type, and would it need type approval accordingly? Is there a process that exists that would cover this here?
For example in the world of light avaition, a particular airframe can support various types/makes of engines. If an an engine has similar torque + power output, revvs, adaptable systems, and is compatible with the sort of flight envelope originally intended for a type, can this also be substituted for another?”
Hello Mark,
Actually these two paragraphs you quote, were my question, not David Burke’s if you re-read the previous thread. However, as you say I believe it is a valid question to ask. We face the prospect of having plenty of ground-hogging Sea Fury’s, Tempest II’s, Walrus, etc. in the UK otherwise.
Hi David, sorry for not giving credit where credit is due, after all it is your initial query which sparked off this whole thread.
Kind regards
Mark
Burn the heretic! :diablo:
I always knew it would be a contentious point and I would far rather see an aircraft fly in its original form any day but as pagen01 says – “The thought of a Tempest flying with anything else is worse, but the tough question is, would I like to see a Tempest fly with the wrong engine, or not see a Tempest fly at all? – it is a tough call, especially when I can only base my argument on, ‘because it dosen’t seem right”
Maybe the Sea Fury was the wrong example to use bearing in mind the passionate supporters of this aircraft and believe me I am one so lets get back to a re-engined Tempest and what would be required to get it certified.
The thought of a Tempest flying with anything else is worse, but the tough question is, would I like to see a Tempest fly with the wrong engine, or not see a Tempest fly at all? – it is a tough call, especially when I can only base my argument on, ‘because it dosen’t seem right’.
I couldn’t agree more and it is a real dilemma for which there is no right or wrong answer. I also agree regarding the RNHF and at the end of the day as an organisation they probably have more Centaurus spares than anyone else in the UK and are therefore probably best placed to maintain a Centaurus engined Sea Fury even if they do seem to have a lot of reliability issues at present.
However, having never seen a Sea Fury fly I would also be happy to see one in the air even if it was with the “wrong” engine/ number of propellor blades.
So, back to the original question whether it be a Sea Fury or a Tempest, what would be the process for getting a non standard engined aircraft certified in the UK.
Same situation as all UK warbird restorations – once the test hours are completed by the two nominated HRL pilots (normally around 5 hrs) they can apply for the issue of a full Permit to Fly and then its handed over!
Thanks – I bet he can’t wait.
Congratulations to all involved, this is an awesome restoration and I look forward to seeing her fly at Shoreham this year.
When is Peter going to have his first flight?
A magnificent effort by all involved – well done!
machtuck I think you might have a winner for the location!
Less than 4 miles as the crow flies – thats just down the road in my book
I think you might find this is Steyning in West Sussex which is just down the road from High Salvington where a Heinkel crashed and has been discussed on here before.
Mark
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=83839&highlight=high+salvington
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=78533&highlight=high+salvington
I know a bloke who bought a set of time expired Hawk wings and used them as part of his houseboat roof.
This wouldnt be in Shoreham would it?