The fact that you can present a Boeing press conference – the one you mentioned in your first posting on this thread – as a source of objective fact in this matter tells the rest of us all we need to know about how seriously we should take your subsequent postings on this issue. :rolleyes:
The crucial factor, laddie.
I’m old enough to remember, I don’t think you are. :diablo:
The crucial factor, laddie.
I’m old enough to remember, I don’t think you are. :diablo:
The Concorde was designed for the aviation industry of the 1960s.
Come the oil price hikes during the 1970s, particularly around the time of the Yom Kippur War in 1973, the Concorde was too small with too few seats to be an attractive proposition to foreign (ie, non-UK and non-French) operators – they simply wouldn’t have been able to make money with it.
BA and Air France, both nationalised airlines, had no say in the matter and were lumbered with the Concorde come hell or high water.
This is what killed the aircraft as a marketable proposition. Nothing at all to do with US jealousy or paranoia.
Only national pride and the high premiums that Air France and BA were able to slap on the tickets kept it in service with those airlines.
The Concorde was designed for the aviation industry of the 1960s.
Come the oil price hikes during the 1970s, particularly around the time of the Yom Kippur War in 1973, the Concorde was too small with too few seats to be an attractive proposition to foreign (ie, non-UK and non-French) operators – they simply wouldn’t have been able to make money with it.
BA and Air France, both nationalised airlines, had no say in the matter and were lumbered with the Concorde come hell or high water.
This is what killed the aircraft as a marketable proposition. Nothing at all to do with US jealousy or paranoia.
Only national pride and the high premiums that Air France and BA were able to slap on the tickets kept it in service with those airlines.
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“Originally Posted by beistrich
I post in this thread and you answer with a stupid insult.I know you have a proplem with airbus(call it childish or stupid) but answer in a civil-manner (like grey area say it)
Its normaly that the Union (and the States too) support the Industry with loans. Good for the Economics. The Airbus-loans are legal and like the other times they will pay it back. But are the Boeing loans legal? Maybe the lawers or the WTO will tell it to us. “
Ok, lets see you back up your claims of illegal subsidies.
Prove it.
That was a question, not a statement. The question mark was a bit of a giveaway in that respect. It isn’t necessary to prove or to disprove a question.
This thread is now producing considerably more heat than light. Let’s all just wait and see what the WTO makes of the whole sorry mess, eh?
Well said, by the way, ELP.
Quote:
“Originally Posted by beistrich
I post in this thread and you answer with a stupid insult.I know you have a proplem with airbus(call it childish or stupid) but answer in a civil-manner (like grey area say it)
Its normaly that the Union (and the States too) support the Industry with loans. Good for the Economics. The Airbus-loans are legal and like the other times they will pay it back. But are the Boeing loans legal? Maybe the lawers or the WTO will tell it to us. “
Ok, lets see you back up your claims of illegal subsidies.
Prove it.
That was a question, not a statement. The question mark was a bit of a giveaway in that respect. It isn’t necessary to prove or to disprove a question.
This thread is now producing considerably more heat than light. Let’s all just wait and see what the WTO makes of the whole sorry mess, eh?
Well said, by the way, ELP.
Matt – go to bed! 😉
Matt – go to bed! 😉
Did you say something then, Sauron?.
Hard to see because of all those red herrings………. :dev2:
Ooooooo!!! Best nuke everyone with a beard then, just to be on the safe side!!! :diablo:
In a word, yes.
Carpet-bombing doesn’t usually work all that well in mountainous regions.
A completely artificial distinction, Sauron, bearing but little relation to the reality of the situation.
The invasion of Afghanistan was a hunt for murderous criminals – no sensible person could think otherwise.
Having said that, why was no-one in the West interested in easing the plight of the Afghans groaning under the Taliban yoke before the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon?
Hmmmm….. but the Taliban have crept quietly back into control of remote areas of the country, haven’t they? Bad news for the local heroin producers, if nothing else.
The road is probably considerably longer than you think, Sauron.
BTW, these elections were boycotted by all but 2 of Karzai’s 18 opponents on the grounds that the result was – ahem – pre-determined.
I wonder how that’s being reported in the US of A? :diablo:
And what’s wrong with grey????? 😉
Nice pictures, Britannia.