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July 17, 2004 at 6:46 pm in reply to: East Midlands, ten years ago #636003

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Woah, is that Hunting Cargo a bristol britannia?

No, that is a Vickers Viscount. The Britannia is a lot sleeker and looks more like the IL18.

Oooh!! Hang your heads in shame, the pair of you!! 😉

It’s a Vickers VC9 Vanguard, or “Merchantman” as BEA used to insist on calling them once they’d been converted to freighters.

I’ll bet you didn’t know there was a VC9 as well as a VC10, did you? 🙂

July 17, 2004 at 8:18 am in reply to: 777/7E7 possible orders and Farnborough #636451

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At least one of the machines involved went more or less straight from factory to storage – they all found buyers PDQ, though.

July 16, 2004 at 8:48 pm in reply to: "I wish they all could be Caledonian girls" #636729

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God – I remember this!!!! 😮 For some reason it reminds me of the video to “Learn To Fly” by Foo Fighters.

Nice ladies………….. 😀

Nice DC10………….. 😀

July 16, 2004 at 6:33 pm in reply to: 777/7E7 possible orders and Farnborough #636839

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Boeing did offset a number of factory-fresh A340-313Xs against an order from SQ in the past (for B777s?), so it’s not entirely without precedent.

July 16, 2004 at 5:27 pm in reply to: HLX at Coventry! #636859

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Oh dearie me!

The local Nimbys won’t like that one little bit.

Shame! 😀

July 16, 2004 at 5:26 pm in reply to: Getting wet at Ringway – Day 2 #636865

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I’m usually gone by around 11:30 on a Saturday.

July 16, 2004 at 5:21 pm in reply to: Getting wet at Ringway – Day 2 #636962

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Lots of people, bmi-star. Passengers, relatives, aircrew, groundcrew, etc.

Oh! I see………

I will be – and still hoping for some good weather. 🙂

July 16, 2004 at 5:01 pm in reply to: Getting wet at Ringway – Day 2 #636973

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Only very rarely, LBARules.

July 16, 2004 at 3:23 pm in reply to: Getting wet at Ringway – Day 2 #637088

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Last time I flew on a Jetstream I didn’t notice that either side was particularly warmer than the other, RIPConcorde. 😀

July 16, 2004 at 12:49 pm in reply to: Flight International article #637228

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Must be mistaken, then.

It’s my age, you know.

July 16, 2004 at 12:38 pm in reply to: Flight International article #637240

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Errrr….. don’t Boeing own Bombardier?

July 16, 2004 at 12:26 pm in reply to: Flight International article #637249

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Ah – you’re just playing about then? Again?

Just read the paper that I linked to………….

You’ve lost this one, mate. Time to move on now. 😉

July 16, 2004 at 12:22 pm in reply to: Flight International article #637267

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That not what you said here:

Boeing research, develop and produce Military hardware and Space exploration vehicles. These are bought by Nasa and the US Military.
A bog standard sale of a product, on a mass scale I’ll admit.

Where as Airbus…. they receive “handouts” to help fund themselves. They do not produce Military hardware and do reasearch or develop spacecraft. so whats the money for?

Subsidies are the reason why Airbus are able to sell their aircraft at the prices they do.

Is it?

And we’re not talking “affiliation” here – the Japanese government have handed over well in excess of US$ 1,000,000,000 to Boeing to name but one “affiliate”.

Bottom line: If it’s wrong for Airbus, then it’s wrong for Boeing. Full Stop.

July 16, 2004 at 12:08 pm in reply to: Flight International article #637317

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Oh – surprise! Boeing are whiter than white whilst Airbus are the nasty black-hearted villains!

You don’t seem to know very much about the way in which big business works in this day and age if you really believe what you’ve written there.

What about the subsidies that Boeing itself has received from the governments of Japan and Italy in connection with the 7E7 – not to mention the “sweetener” to keep production of that type in Washington State – some US$ 6,000,000,000 worth?

You may find this paper illuminating – it was produced by two US academics from Buffalo NJ with no connection to either manufacturer. The really interesting bit is Table 2 on page 65 – don’t worry, the page numbering doesn’t start at 1!!!

And I’ll say it again – THEY’RE ALL AT IT!

July 16, 2004 at 11:49 am in reply to: Flight International article #637348

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I agree, so long as we’re referring to all subsidies…. including “invisible” subsidies through over-appropriation on military projects, “encouragements” to build aircraft in certain US States and the like.

They’re all at it……….
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