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  • in reply to: Flight International article #637362
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    Yes, I speak English quite well- but nowhere in that article does it mention any US institution giving aid or subsidies of any kind to Airbus.

    Either we’re talking about two different articles or you’re mistaken.

    in reply to: Flight International article #637370
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    Where does it mention Airbus getting state aid from the USA????? :confused:

    in reply to: 50 years of history #637478
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    With all due respect, shut up!

    Come on now – there’s no need to be rude to folk is there?

    Perhaps this is what’s upsetting people rather than the content of your postings, hmm?

    in reply to: LBA Meet? #637682
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    14th would probably suit me better.

    in reply to: 50 years of history #637692
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    Here’s a pretty basic one, but Google should help you track down more.

    http://www.aerosite.net/caravelle.htm

    in reply to: 50 years of history #637706
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    Correct. The later marks of Caravelle featured a number of revisions to the cockpit arising from feedback from flight crews, of which this was one.

    in reply to: 50 years of history #637823
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    Yes, the Caravelle has the nose of a Comet – not just similar, but identical.

    This “graft” was a short-cut that enabled Sud Aviation to begin “expermental” Air France flights as planned in 1956.

    BTW – talking of Caravelles……… which airline made the first regular scheduled revenue-earning international flight with the Caravelle? 😎

    in reply to: 50 years of history #637830
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    Ahhhh – wonderful machine!!!

    Takes me right back to the days of my youth when these beauties were a routine sight at Ringway.

    And the glorious sound of the four Avons on take-off – quite literally earth-shaking! It’d be enough to make any Nimby swallow their tongue these days but to me then it was sheer music.

    The climb rate was quite sprightly too, especially at anything less than MTOW.

    They just don’t make ’em like they used to. 😮

    in reply to: 50 years of history #637835
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    Whatever was I thinking??? Caravelle indeed………… 😮

    Second place quite rightly goes to the Avro Jetliner.

    Thanks for correcting my shameful error, Papa Lima.

    in reply to: Manchester (11 July 2004) #637844
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    No – that’s certainly one of the Excel/Air Atlanta machines. I can only presume that it was subbing for another airline.

    in reply to: 50 years of history #637848
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    Errr… the 747 didn’t see light until around 10 to 12 years after the Dash 80 took flight.

    No, not the B747 – the B47 Stratojet. 6-engine jet bomber with podded engines on a narrow swept back wing. See the picture…..

    The Comet made her last commercial revenue flight, with Dan-Air as you correctly said, but in 1980.

    Remember also that the basic design is still in military service as the Nimrod, demonstrating the robustness of the original design after all these years. The same is, of course, true of the Dash 80/707..

    The goal in commercial avaition is to make a profit, not be first. Few aircarft have done both.

    True words, but the fact remains that the DH Comet 1 was the first jet airliner to take to the skies – beating the Caravelle by a matter of days.

    Less commonly recognised now is that the first revenue-earning trans-Atlantic flight by a jet airliner was made by a Comet 4 of BOAC.

    Ahhh – the days when we had an aircraft industry 😎

    in reply to: 50 years of history #637865
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    Such is so often the fate of pioneers. No-one, not even Boeing, properly understood the process of metal fatigue in pressurised airframes at that time.

    Later airliners – including, I might add, the later marks of DH Comet with their enviable performance and safety record – were safer precisely because of the pioneering work on metal fatigue done by De Havilland and the RAE to rectify the Comet 1’s fatal flaw. No small contribution to the aviation world.

    The article gives the distinct impression that the Dash 80’s maiden flight was the first flight by a jet airliner and, as we all know, this is simply not the case.

    Still and all, it’s a lovely old machine and it’s nice to know that its future is secured.

    in reply to: 50 years of history #637953
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    And when did the De Havilland Comet fly for the first time?

    July 1949, wasn’t it? :confused:

    in reply to: A quick one from Ringway #638026
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    They seem to have given it a wash since your picture was taken, then. 😀

    in reply to: A quick one from Ringway #638039
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    It usually is around lunchtime in mid-week – especially by “Sunday morning” standards.

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