With respect, Paul, I think that is splitting hairs. She, like all of us, was born, and I don’t think any of us regard that as our “first chance of life”, do we? So she had a transplant which gave her a chance of extending her life. The argument is about her second chance of extending her life.

That’s a point – I’m beginning to get used to it!:)

Ah! Laviticus’ post – I had missed it. Now it all makes absolute sense….I think!

Of course. He was an intelligent and principled fighter for left-wing causes and particularly his beloved Labour Party. His views were ones with which I had little or no sympathy but I respected him and always felt he was ill suited for the rough and tumble of party politics and certainly for the leadership of the Party.

As a left wing thinker, as an orator and and as a mentor he was a very significant figure.

how old was he – late 90s?

I respect your honesty. I neither like nor dislike it – that’s not the point and it is not my place to comment on a personal decision. But you and Paul are both talking about a third chance. Have I missed something in the story – I thought she was being turned down in WA for a second transplant, not a third. I am not splitting hairs but we m8igfht as well get the facts right, so correct me if I am wrong.

In terms of the deserving nature of her claim on the limited resources I don’t think it can only be first come first served. I think age and many other factors have to be taken into account and we do not know the ages of the other 7 on the waiting list. My own view, and this will enfuriate you, is that a 24 year old with young children, despite her background, has a better claim than a 65 year old with a grown up family.

How did we get from cats to the non-Leap Year Bug? Did I miss a page of posts?:confused:

I wish I had more faith in the way the triage system is operated here. In my experience in the UK the medical practioner is usually a nurse not a doctor. In other countries nurses do not make the initial decisions.

And the use of the word “deserving” requires objective not subjective judgement, which I suspect is rarely applied.

And the story deserved all our efforts……..