On the tail. Duh.

“u failed”? You may as well stamp “I’m netboy working on daddy’s computer” on your forehead. :rolleyes:

Well , i thought garryb said was saying something like the “pakfa” controls, that is full movable tail

And yes sferrin,”u fail” as always , i like that term, is something i found in the job , come on, cant i have some joy arround? :diablo:

You say F-117 is more stealthy then F-22?

Pretty sure, really there isnt any good explanation for that famous gaussian concept

Nice that the faceted concept still is used for US navy ship designs, and there isnt any of them using that gaussian thingy

You have noticed that these records are as relevant for real life performance as the color scheme of the prototype. The F-22 by the way set a record that will probably not be broken in the near future: sustained level speed without afterburner.

Personally I don’t think the Russians are willing to make the expenditure to arrive at a level comparable to the F-22, especially will they have some issues with stealth, they never have produced a single stealthy aircraft.

Come on…whit out afterburners , big deal, i mean thats all?? that plane has such huge T/W and cant beat any REAL record?

Issues with stealth? man what you think , you need supercomputers for that?, that the russians cant reach the “gaussians” (HA!) stealth concepts?, at least on the stealthy field they arent designing a f-117 and to reach the 22s stealth level isnt a great challenge

Ok guys, i really, really have strong doubts abot that vertical controls on that speculative pkfa

I dont think the will leave almost all the responsability for stability to the TVCs, again some of u guys overrate the things

I never ever have heard about a conformal radar on the pakfa…maybe is this stuff??

http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1017vs6.jpg

Ok, i must accept..i was surprised by that…really

No. The Tu-160 has an all moving vertical tail

Where?????…

Hyper…these smiles sucks, sorry dude, but u failed 😀

The 104 lancer was a interesting idea, high mounted cranked wing, althought it was probably too draggy, between the f-20 and the cl-2500 ( i think it was it name..), i chose the lancer, in some aspects they did to the 104 what dassault did to the mirage 3 turning it into the f-1

Never thought about the f-1, because it was a late 60s design, but well, it was a 60s anyway

IMMIGRANTS + F15CRACKS + F22DOOM + SFERRIN + JONJAMES =

THREAD FAIL!!

Guys stop that crap and discuss it on general topic thread , really was a interesting thread before all that mess…

Nice. Now we just need the Democrats to get in charge and cancel the F-22 and F-35 programs so we can support welfare queens and 12 million illegals (criminals) and we’ll be set.

PHAIL!!!! 😀

hope other posters wont phail in such way, so we can avoid another useles USs politics discussion that nobody cares…..

With early radar technology it always needed two seats to have some sort of autonomy

That was more related with the early missil guidance systems (and the quantity of missiles controled ) than with the ground help