J-20 influenced by the F-35? you guys mut be kidding right?

Just because China got some papers from the JSF does not mean the actual plane was “infuenced” by that data.

I’m sure neither the 144 has something to do with it.

Way too many differences, both the F-35 and 144 are completely different from the J-20.

I like this plane in some aspects, on some others I dislike, so is nice to discuss about it, but saying the J20 was “influenced” from something else is the same arrogant assumption, without any kind of fundament or solid fact, that typically comes from some idiots that believe only few have the word’s technologic monopoly.

This program is completelly indigenous.

I think we can see in this picture that both, the LEVCON and the slat have different incidence.

Probably the LEVCON is acting as a canard rather than another slat, would be interesting to read a comprehensive analysis of its aerodynamics, since among the 5th gen planes, IMO, the PAKFA is the most advanced on that field.

I’m, not sure yet..hopefully we will read something more detailed about it.

Regarding the engine incident, people is taking it too lightly…it was a very serious incident.

I’m still amazed how the Candid is that thirsty of fuel…probably lack of room for fuel?

The Il-96 could be a nice alternative, but we don’t know what kind of restructuration would need to handle the antenna

The Il-96 seems to be way too big for this task as well.

Empty weights

Il-76-70-80TM
E-3-70TM

And the Il-96 with a whooping 120TM…no thanks, way too much trouble for an AWACS 🙂

T-50-2 LEVCONS and slats leading edges seems to be painted with something..RAM?

No sign for diffrencial LEVCON driving yet, at least to me.

These doors gaps seems to be intended and not accidental, these gaps will be there in the production plane IMO, probably will be filled with plastic, rubber..or something…but IMO these gaps are not bad manufacturing finishing…are meant to be there…and I’m thinking a couple of reasons why they are there.

Tell me – what does a radar blocker look like? What does a fan and stator row look like? What are the main differences?

Would be awesome if they manage to integrate blockers in the engine itself, but I think it would be inpractical too, the blocker will be an independient device, I think is already confirmed

I don’t like to make childish commentaries, but this aircraft truly rocks…that picture is awesome.

Until now I’m thinking LEVCONS are slaved with the slats, things changes a lot if they can be differentially moved, now there are three possibilites

1-The levcons control is independient with the slats
2-The slats and Levcons can be differentially moved
3-Both

I don’t recall that slats can be differentially driven in another airplane or fighter, please let me know if so.

Now the BIG question remains

Are the Pakfa Levcons act as canards or are just big slats?, both are quite different.

Regarding the exhausts, I think since the program has started with a 3D TVC, IMO is very likely the production T-50 is MEANT to get a 3D TVC, because all the program, all the requirements and all the airframe was designed and tested with this kind of device, so the rounded 3D TVC is here to stay.

If indians want their exhausts ala Raptor…well, is their problem, go and pay for that garbage…

But I think russians are not that dumb.

BTW, why the J-20 color is that dark grey? is there other chinese plane painted with that color?

Maybe are testing RAM coatings already?, would not be surprising if the J-20 is ahead the T-50 in its testing schedule, still not impressive performance shown though, also that canards demand is suspecting.

since they admitted CARET is the future, which Boeing adopted as a layout for NGF’s inlet, leaving them few options but to design sth F-22 alike with additional foreplane.

I believe they went with the DSI because supercruiser is not a requirement, and the whole aerodynamic configuration would be OK for supersonic dashing, but nor for supercruiser.

I told them that air-intake F-22 aplied is curved so toughly that banned F-22 from speed beyond M2

Ok, ok, this is interesting, and escaped from my mind, are you talking about the speed flow loses?, meaning that the curved intake decreases the input flow velocity?

Now thinking about it, is highly likely, because yes, the s-duct is very curved turning the speed into pressure, decreasing the flow velocity that goes over the compressor.

Yeah, we should respect this kind of serious work. These simulated evaluations are way better than just look photos and talk:D

As far i have read the simulation is done with the conventional optic-aspect procedure.

This is why when you increase the GHz in the test, the plane becomes more ‘stealthy’

This is not true in a real test