its good but you guys are making this into a big deal?
cruise missiles are the easiast to devolop systems remember V-1s? they lost their signifance since they were easy to shoot down unlike BMs but after improvement in technology they were modified to fly lo which allow them to fly below cold war air defense system. But however most modern ADS these days have little problem shooting down low flying missiles. Anyway fyi saddam had cruise missiles (modified exocet as well as seersucker), iran has few cruise missile programs as well. Lets wait till more info comes on this on before passing judgement for starters looking at that video missile seems to have rather high flight altitude.

it has nothing to do with seasucker or exocets. the payload, range, speed and sophistication is of totally different level. and future u will see much more range. such things are only inducted after thoroughly tested against all defensive measeures. Pak has other programs under it sleeves.
http://www.dawn.com/2005/08/12/top2.htm

Giving details of the cruise missile, the ISPR said it was a terrain-hugging missile, which had the most advanced and modern navigation and guidance system and a high degree of manoeuvrability. The technology enables the missile to avoid radar detection and penetrate undetected through any hostile defensive system. The missile could be launched from all platforms, including surface ships, submarines and aircraft, it added

russians i think already has ramjet bvr or very close to operationalizing them. but i dont think it will be available for export that easy or early. now getting advance technology from russia not only depends on money but more on how closely the receiving country aligns with moscow world view.
in the end meteor will be too expensive and few countries could afford it. cost of development has escalated exponentially in the west.

Actually I never doubted any of that, I just have my suspicions about the ability of the Agostas to launch this weapon. But what was interesting about your list is that pakistan developed none of it.

here is direct quote from Naval chief few years ago.

Going nuclear is Governments decision. If the country has become a
nuclear power, it is obvious that the government has to think of the means of
delivery and most credible delivery in the history of naval power is the
submarineplatform, Pakistan Naval Chief Admiral Abdul Aaziz Mirza said in June
this year.

He said in order to go nuclear the French-built Agosta 90B nuclear
submarine have to have independent propulsion and firing system of longer range missiles and if the Government decides we will be able to deliver to whatever extent it is possible.

Source: Statesman (India), Dec 10, 2001

erm read up on project Ventrivale and sensor fusion solutions applied by DRDO to all upgrades and especially LCA.

how do u know they are same level?

It’s quite a neat EW suite actually. Read up on it.

Russian themselves claimed that the Su-27SKM is better in tech level than both MKI and -MKK. and u are talking about Su-35BM with towed decoys and completely new targeting , communication and naviagtion system.

Talk about this when KS172 comes around. MKI currently carries the best AAM armory the Russians can muster. It cannot have long range weaponry if it doesn’t exist.

Russia just last year allowed R-73 version for export which were available for Ruaf for 10 years. u can just conclude how outdated export R-77 tech is.

Perhaps you should read up on those canards on the MKI. Those work with the TVC and the standard control surfaces.

there is big weight reduction in Su-35, much improved engines and aerodynamic profile not only to increase range but also speed and weopon load.

It is a big aircraft not designed with LO features in mind. I don’t think there is much you can do about its RCS.

yes u can do about it. just like late MIG-29 versions but much on higher scale.

AFAIK datalinks are said to be Indian. Same for the Bison and all other local upgrades. The Ks came straight with no modifications.

datalink Indian?

IMO they shouldn’t waste the resources trying to one-up the F-22. They ought to look at something in the class of Typhoon or maybe an F-35 with a little more speed. More than that and they’re going to blow a lot of money they really don’t need to. The PAK-FA isn’t going to have to compete with the F-22 for exports and the US isn’t going to war against Russia anytime soon (unless they decide to team up with China) so where’s the advantage of one-uping the F-22?

this will not work with them. russian think that there Su-35, Su-32 and MIG-29K/M are already better than Typhoon and they already have TVC engine, phased array radars and long range weopons for them. and can be further upgraded with high powered engines and composites. so there is no point for them to compete against Typhoon/rafale/F-35 class fighters.

The Su-35 already exists so what in the world is that article talking about?

And furthermore please tell me what the Su-35 provides that the Su-30 cannot already do.

As far as I’m concerned the Su-30 is the best model of the Flanker you can get……two-seats are simply better than one in most cases nowadays. The F-4 prove d it, and airplanes like the Tornado, F-15E, Su-30 , and others like them are continuing that trend. The Rafale order has been placed with more two-seaters, and I thought I read at one point that more F/A-18F’s were being ordered than E models.

Somebody please tell me what you can do with an Su-35 that you can’t with an Su-30.

this isnt the Su-35 which u have known untill this point. it does not exist. it is made for future customers.
u can save one pilot with Su-35. certainly less expenses that is obvious.

u are going to be proven wrong on this one. Flanker has future beyond Su-30 and Su-32.

Su-35 to Fly in 2007

An informed source of the military industrial complex has reported that OAO Sukhoy OKB is working on a transitional type of fighter under the designation Su-35. In the opinion of the AviaPort.RU source, this aircraft is supposed to be an intermediary type between fourth and fifth generation fighters.

The Su-35 actually may be put into the air in 2007, as air force commander-in-chief Vladimir Mikhaylov has declared repeatedly, the source thinks.

According to his information, individual elements on this aircraft will be perfected for the “future tactical aviation aircraft complex: (PAK FA) program, by this airplane is not yet a PAK FA.

The Su-35 is being created with the considerable Su-27/30 reserve, most of all the airframe. As of today there are different opinions about the composition of the Su-35 airplane’s avionics and for the time being a final decision still has not been adopted on the composition, the source said.

According to him, development of a transitional fighter model is predicated by the need to “hold onto the marketplace” – the demand for Su-27/30 fighters will fall, and a new model of fighter should appear before the appearance of the developed PAK FA fighter.

As is well known, experimental design work on the creation of a more revolutionary aircraft – the Su-35 fighter – began last year at the Sukhoy OKB. They already have christened this aircraft at the OKB as a generation “four plus-plus” fighter, and at Tekhnokompleks (the developer of the avionics, they call it jokingly the “five with a minus.”

As has been reported earlier, the Su-35 computer will receive information from 150 different antennas and sensors which have been place along the whole fuselage. The fifth generation airplane will have several orders of magnitude greater of such “sense organs.” Besides changes of the look of the cockpit, the Su-35 will be less visible for radar stations. They will achieve this using a special radar wave absorbing coating – in fact using a new paint with which the aircraft will be painted.

It is planned to approve some ideas in the area of avionics and weapons which are being developed for the PAK FA fighter program on the Su-35. In the opinion of specialists, the upgraded AL-31F aircraft engines being installed on the Su-37 also will be a transitional model to the future AL-41F aircraft engine which is being developed by the Saturn Scientific Production Association.

Source: 01.08.05, AviaPort.RU, Correspondent Dmitriy Kozlov

Care to show where Gripen has been mentioned? In fact where does the President say that it is not up to western aircraft? He is simply conveying that LCA should be designed to match up to the expectations (western machines in this case). What he is saying is that standards for the aircraft should not be dropped. LCA right from the beginning was designed to play with the western aircraft in terms of technology. It has done a fairly commendable job so far.

Amazing how people will make their own story and start spewing.

he mentioned aircrafts from EU, US and Russia at airshows. only Gripen comes directly comes interms of engine and size of LCA. he does not need even to mention it. when he is using the word design it means it is not design upto that standards let alone developed.