CAT1, Do you expect an official statement from ISPR? We will all know in a few months. We have history as an indicator – Musharraf has been willing to let US base in Pakistan to attack Afghanistan and he has a record of compromising Pakistani sovereignty for aid and other rewards from the US. Like they say, once it is established that so and so is a -, it’s only a matter of price negotiations.

Do you believe that Bush released “unlimited” F-16s because he felt that Pakistan was going to become a beacon of democracy and virtue 😉

the same wepoons can turn on india if india does not follow US in letter and spirit. . Pak has also history of transferring weopons and tech from one endeavor to another. 😉

Yahoo/H-177, I think you should stick to discussing with your level 😉

Wolffy, Do you think it was a coincidence that Pakistan just sent its centrifuges to IAEA after years of refusal just as the F-16s were announced? There’s no free lunch. Just wait a few months. We’ll know 😉

BTW here’s an editorial from Pakistan’s Daily Times:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_27-3-2005_pg3_1

so do you think your discussion is of much higher level. You also quoted cash price of $1.2B at that time. what happened to that figure now?
so how many F-16s will PAF get for land invasion help.

Other performance improvements to be carried out in future will involve the 29,400 lb-thrust AL-31FP turbofan, developed and produced by the Saturn Scientific Production Association (NPO Saturn).

this another hole in higher thrust indigenous theories and also composites of current aircraft.

The 300 B is from The Friday Times.

The World Bank, however it calculates the GDP is a million times more reputable than star49 or Shaukat “Cook up” Aziz 🙂 GDP is calculated by neutral sources – not lying governments which have extra reasons to inflate numbers.

As to China, both sides of the ratio is for 2003, so the number is valid.

Give it up man, you’re already a joke here. Pak’s GDP will reach $100 B in a decade or so.

So what is friday times credibility? and how world bank can calculate GDP. does world bank has statistician sitting in every government office?
regarding China there is only beliefs not facts.

My god !:eek:

It is not all about the saving rate, but about the net worth of a nation…

Net worth of nation depends on government spending and consumption if that is financed from out side so there is no internal strength in the economy merely depending on out side finances and $ being the reserve currency of the world. of course every nation net worth is composed of different things like Industrial production in China and Service sector in US and India case.

Blackcat,

Don’t hurry to feel sorry for US because of the national debt.
The sum seems unbelieveble: 7700 billion!

But reported to their GDP the US debt is 62.4% of GDP (2003), France is 68.8% of GDP (2003), Japan is 154.6% of GDP (2003), Germany 64.2% of GDP (2003), Canada 77% of GDP (2003), Egypt debt is 101.8% of GDP (2003), Greece debt is 100.9% of GDP (2003), Austria debt is 67.7% of GDP (2003), Italy debt is 106.4% of GDP (2003), even countries like Switzerland and Sweden have debt over 50% of GDP. The percentage is more important than the actual amounts (which is still quite high for many nations) because it relates directly to the nations ability to rectify the debt. The US has a substantial debt but as a precentage is in a better position to budget itself out of debt when compared to the many nations with debt 70% and the many with debt over 100% of the GDP

It is not all about debt but savings rate of a nation. US has around 1% saving rate of its GDP so most of its debt and consumption is financed by savings from outside the US and thats the whole point.

Rubbish you ve never been to the IAPO factory…how can you trust the IAF with such #’s…even Irkuts still claims its 34,500 and ONLY the MKK has a limit TO of 38.8. 😀

BTW who confirmed in AI ..10x over?

IAF and trusting? there alot of reports in Indian press from IAF which are not true in reality.

A simple question deserves a simple answer

The LCA will only be operational by 08 and HAL cannot produce more than amount x per year of the plane, especially in the initial years, in the meantime older IAF planes will still need to be retired, hence……., the IAF also wants to increase squadron strength asap, note the term asap, now you should get the picture why “Hindustan” does not only go for the LCA.

So how do you know that these 126 jets will start arriving before 2008?. even there is no sign contract yet. negotiations are more in preliminary stages.
regarding production rate why not increase LCA assembly lines to two or three per year instead of spending money on foreign licenses and another production line. The whole thing is illogical.